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Wood Zeppelin
Joined: 09 Feb 2016 Posts: 328 City/Region: Seattle
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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:48 am Post subject: Impeller brands, quality and costs |
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I've always wondered...
I can get a Sierra impeller for 1/3 the cost of the same impeller from Honda.
Is Honda all mark-up, or is it really better quality?
Is Sierra made from lesser quality materials/tolerances? Or just as good? _________________ James Salay - Real Estate Broker / Investor, Engineer, Artist, Fisherman, Canyoneer, Outdoor Enthusiast
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1997 22' Angler - "C-Creature"
1988 16' Angler - "E-fishn-C" (Project boat)
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thataway
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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:39 am Post subject: |
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Considering the cost in the relative scale of boating costs, I have stuck with original equipment manufacture's parts. It is likely that the OEM is of better material, or made to closer tolerance.
I checked to see the range--be sure you are comparing apples to apples and the whole water pump kit, not just impeller. I saw in some cases the "Honda" OEM was 2x the Sierra or unknown brands. It was like a $32 difference. In many areas this is 6 gallons of fuel--and everything is relative...
My experience with outboards in 3rd world countries, that various outboard manufactures sell the engines at a substantial discount (in comparison to USA), to assure a long time of slightly overpriced parts. The motors in 3rd world areas are slightly different than what we buy in the USA. Go original. _________________ Bob Austin
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ssobol
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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 11:16 am Post subject: Re: Impeller brands, quality and costs |
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Wood Zeppelin wrote: | I've always wondered...
I can get a Sierra impeller for 1/3 the cost of the same impeller from Honda.
Is Honda all mark-up, or is it really better quality?
Is Sierra made from lesser quality materials/tolerances? Or just as good? |
How do you that Sierra is not (or has not acquired) the OEM manufacturer of the part for Honda?
Without all the Honda overhead, they can sell the part cheaper.
I'm not saying that they are, but in today's world it is something to consider. Certainly any manufacturer of anything these days buys rather than makes a lot of the parts that go into their products. |
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Wood Zeppelin
Joined: 09 Feb 2016 Posts: 328 City/Region: Seattle
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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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thanks Guys..
When in doubt, I err on the side of safety and reliability (especially with a sensitive and critical part like an impeller). Towing is way more expensive and ruins the fun! |
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T.R. Bauer
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 1763 City/Region: Wasilla
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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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I have used both. There is nothing wrong with the Sierra impellors and the OEM ones seem better, but there is not a dramatic difference. |
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Wood Zeppelin
Joined: 09 Feb 2016 Posts: 328 City/Region: Seattle
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Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 1:48 am Post subject: |
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That Makes sense...
Thanks!
BTW - I'm getting a used lower unit. It's "recommended" to change the impeller.. Anyway to tell if it's still perfectly good? Like if the rubber is soft and not brittle/cracked? Anything else to look for? |
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Schuster
Joined: 25 Mar 2009 Posts: 124 City/Region: Port Orchard
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Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 11:00 am Post subject: |
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Just my own opinion and possibly overkill but I like to know where I am when I start out on something. I would change out the water pump kit and save the removed impeller for an emergency. Generally, if the rubber is not cracked, checked, and will regain its original shape (ie the legs straighten out and they don't stay all bent over} and the rubber is pliable it is probably ok. A new water pump kit is insurance against a more serious overheated engine problem. Good luck with the new set up. _________________ Dave
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T.R. Bauer
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 1763 City/Region: Wasilla
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Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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Wood Zeppelin wrote: | That Makes sense...
Thanks!
BTW - I'm getting a used lower unit. It's "recommended" to change the impeller.. Anyway to tell if it's still perfectly good? Like if the rubber is soft and not brittle/cracked? Anything else to look for? |
Not really. I've seen countless of them with missing "teeth" or veins and still somehow worked. This is usually because somebody started the thing without water and thought they'd get away with it. Or, they're just flipping old. I'd start anew as it's sitting right there in front of you and you're gone that far. Also, there area a couple of gaskets in there that I usually mess up when taking them apart that come with the impellor replacement kit - might as well do it. |
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