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AKMel
Joined: 13 Jan 2017 Posts: 50 City/Region: Gustavus
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-esta
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Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:04 am Post subject: |
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Followup:
As stated the problem seems to be my controller. I ordered another. I detailed this to the seller after filing a "dispute." They offered reimbursement. There are two controllers, one wired, one wireless. They work together. I have both. I eventually realized they offered reimbursement on the cheaper of the two, which was half the price of the one I needed. Then the dispute expired because it exceeded the amount of time (3 days) allotted by Alibaba / AliExpress, (a Chinese ebay?). In my opinion the system is set up in favor of the seller. So it's Buyer Beware if you have a problem. If I had to do this over again I'd spend a little more and do business with a seller that has merchandise warehoused in the USA.
AliExpress offered to have me return of the merchandise for full refund. I didn't think that prudent after spending 6 hours on the install, and probably another 2 hours to uninstall and box, and return postage is the responsibility of the buyer. I suspect return postage alone would amount to more than the cost of the controller. I'm prob out $20 for the controller. I can throw $20 out the window. To me it's the principle of the matter.
AliExpress sent me a questionaire about how satisfied I am. I answered honestly.
I also tried to file a review (1-5 stars) on their site, with description of my problem, and my difficulties with their customer service. The software came back that I am not permitted to use Chinese characters or symbols. I wish I knew some. I only used English. Like I say, their system is weighted in favor of the seller. _________________ Mel
My idea of a tragedy is a deduction killed by a fact.
2008 22 Cruiser 2017-present
2003 Alumaweld Intruder 2012-present |
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pcg
Joined: 31 Aug 2018 Posts: 416 City/Region: Sherwood
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 1999
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Quest
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Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:31 am Post subject: |
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AKMel wrote: | The software came back that I am not permitted to use Chinese characters or symbols. I wish I knew some. I only used English. Like I say, their system is weighted in favor of the seller. |
Google is your friend...
该软件回来了,我不允许使用中文字符或符号
And thank you for the thorough documentation of your experience. Very helpful! _________________ Paul |
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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3461 City/Region: SW Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SoBELLE
Photos: SoBelle
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Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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pcg wrote: | ...
Google is your friend...
该软件回来了,我不允许使用中文字符或符号
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If Google translate works for English->Chinese as it seems to when translating some things to English, it might not be that helpful. |
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AKMel
Joined: 13 Jan 2017 Posts: 50 City/Region: Gustavus
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-esta
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Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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I had a conversation with a Chinese friend today. She has been in the States about 6 months but is fluent in English. I mentioned about Chinese customer service lacking English ability. Her response was that, unless it's a big company, they don't have English speakers at all. She says they run the comments though Google Translate. (she considers that 85-90% accurate in translation). They then answer what they think we said, run their Mandarin answer through Google Translate again, and send the result.
Now that makes sense.... or does it. |
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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3461 City/Region: SW Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SoBELLE
Photos: SoBelle
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Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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AKMel wrote: | I had a conversation with a Chinese friend today. She has been in the States about 6 months but is fluent in English. I mentioned about Chinese customer service lacking English ability. Her response was that, unless it's a big company, they don't have English speakers at all. She says they run the comments though Google Translate. (she considers that 85-90% accurate in translation). They then answer what they think we said, run their Mandarin answer through Google Translate again, and send the result.
Now that makes sense.... or does it. |
When I was in China about a year ago, the hotel maids and taxi drivers would often use a translate app on their phones to talk to English speakers. Sometimes I'd be trying to tell the maid something and she'd stick her phone up to my face to get the translation of what I wanted.
BTW, it is not Google but something else. Most Chinese can't get Google (or Facebook, Instagram, etc.). But there is a Chinese government approved alternative to all of these services. Also BTW, the Chinese are way ahead of the US in terms of phone integration to services used by most people. For instance, Uber may sound neat in the US, but if you want a taxi in China you use a very similar sort of app. Good luck trying to get a taxi by just flagging one down. They've been doing it for longer than Uber has been around. |
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localboy
Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 4673 City/Region: Lake Stevens via Honolulu
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: 'Au Kai (Ocean Traveler)
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Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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ssobol wrote: | But there is a Chinese government approved alternative to all of these services. Also BTW, the Chinese are way ahead of the US in terms of phone integration to services used by most people. For instance, Uber may sound neat in the US, but if you want a taxi in China you use a very similar sort of app. Good luck trying to get a taxi by just flagging one down. They've been doing it for longer than Uber has been around. |
I would make a guess that anything & everything that has to with the web must be “Chinese government approved”. Communists are not known for their allowances of freedom & liberties. _________________ "We can go over there...behind the 'little one'....."
Wife to her husband pointing @ us...from the bow of their 50-footer; Prideaux Haven 2013 |
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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3461 City/Region: SW Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SoBELLE
Photos: SoBelle
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Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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localboy wrote: | ssobol wrote: | But there is a Chinese government approved alternative to all of these services. Also BTW, the Chinese are way ahead of the US in terms of phone integration to services used by most people. For instance, Uber may sound neat in the US, but if you want a taxi in China you use a very similar sort of app. Good luck trying to get a taxi by just flagging one down. They've been doing it for longer than Uber has been around. |
I would make a guess that anything & everything that has to with the web must be “Chinese government approved”. Communists are not known for their allowances of freedom & liberties. |
It was kind of interesting that Google was not allowed (i.e. no Gmail), but AOL email worked fine. |
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AKMel
Joined: 13 Jan 2017 Posts: 50 City/Region: Gustavus
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-esta
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Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:54 pm Post subject: Life and Heater update |
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It's been about 4 years since my last post. A lot of water passed around the boat since then. My wife of 50 years got sick and I cared for her for her for two years before she passed. After several more years I got married again. Those were years away from C-Brats forums. I still have C-esta and am getting out in it again. We recently did Glacier Bay NP for 3 days.
Back to the heater: The Chinese heater worked ok in my truck, but unless the outside temp was 32˚or below, actually got the cab too warm. I slept in the back seat several times and the heater would go to low setting and remain on all night. In a boat with more cubic feet the 2KW heater could be about right, depending on your conditions. I never had any problems with the Chinese heater once I got a good controller.
The Espar on the C-dory has been flawless as well. I just don't prefer the 4˚ differential between off and on. It's acceptable but 2-3˚ would be better.
Regards, Mel |
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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3461 City/Region: SW Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SoBELLE
Photos: SoBelle
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Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:30 am Post subject: |
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I'm in the process of installing a HLN 4KW diesel heater in my garage. These get good reviews and comes with good features. If it works out well, I'll consider a 2KW version for my CD22. |
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