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clayhubler
Joined: 03 Aug 2019 Posts: 339 City/Region: La Center
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Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 1:41 pm Post subject: Thinking of twin tohatsu 60s |
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Hello all,
Just looking to hear your thoughts.
Thinking about upgrading to new tohatsu 60s for Hammerhead. We have a very heavy boat and usually have at least 4 people and I have always felt that the twin 40s were under powered. Especially in a following sea. I have a quote from Boat Specialists in Richmond California. 16,676 for new motors and controls. I will have to pick them up and rig them myself. I had always thought that repowereing would be 20k+ so I am tempted.
I know Jay is super pleased with his honda 60s and they have more displacement, but i think the Hondas are about 2k more per motor and also about 30lbs heavier. I have only owned one tohatsu, a 9.8, and it is a good motor.
Thoughts? _________________ Clay on Hammerhead
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jkidd
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Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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I think I would give Sportcraft in Portland a call and get a price from them too. _________________ Jody Kidd
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Northern, Utah
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DayBreak
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Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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jkidd wrote: | I think I would give Sportcraft in Portland a call and get a price from them too. |
Does the $16,676 include sales tax? No sales tax at Sportcraft but I think they will only sell Honda and Suzuki. Like Jody says, give them a call. _________________ Gary F
DayBreak, 23 Venture, 2018 - present |
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Hunkydory
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Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:17 am Post subject: |
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Clay, that’s within $80 of what I payed for the Honda 60’s 5 years ago, but it did include rigging & no sales tax at Sportman.
As you stated, I’m very satisfied with the Honda 60’s, but as you probably know, my first choice was the Tohatsu 60’s & only went with the Honda 60’s, as a 2nd choice due to the Tohatsu not being available. I keep hoping someone will try the Tohatsu 60’s & share their performance. Personally even with the success I’ve had with the Hondas, I still think taking the gamble not a bad choice with the Tohatsu if in comparison, the overall price & availability right.
Jay _________________ Jay and Jolee 2000 22 CD cruiser Hunkydory
I will not waste my days in trying to prolong them------Jack London
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ATPNW
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Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:40 am Post subject: |
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Would also recommend calling sportcraft, that’s about what we paid for Honda 60’s rigged this year with new controls and gauges |
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Wandering Sagebrush
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Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:51 am Post subject: |
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I’ll chime in regarding Sportcraft. I’ve repowered two boats there, and also recommend giving them a call. _________________ "And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." - Abraham Lincoln |
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clayhubler
Joined: 03 Aug 2019 Posts: 339 City/Region: La Center
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Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:55 am Post subject: |
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Yeah,
I will check with sportcraft. Pretty sure they only do Honda and Suzuki. But I have done business with them before and they were great. I guess I thought the tohatus were a really good deal but now not so sure.
Funny, I was telling a friend I was considering a repower and now I am really considering a single. I will have some work to do to accommodate that, but depending on the price it might be worth it.
Thanks for the input. |
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cdoryfan
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Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Are you stuck on twin engines? If money is a factor (and weight), wouldn't a single engine make more sense? I ask, as a 115 would be $10-$14k.(I just repowered so am pretty up to date on the numbers as had called for quotes on Tohatsu, Mercury, Suzuki, Honda and Yamaha). Regardless, I see a bunch of commercial fishermen around my area (New England) using Tohatsu engines so that has to be a vote of confidence as they run hard and endlessly.
Final thought is the decal on the boat says 115 hp (or will if you ask the factory for replacement). It may be worth checking with insurance before going over the max hp rating just incase.
Final thought, a Tohatsu 115 weight 392 lbs, two Tohatsu 60's weigh 435lbs (not to mention additional rigging....
I apologize for not responding direct to the questions and suspect you have already considered this question, but if not wanted to mention. |
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DayBreak
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Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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cdoryfan wrote: |
Final thought, a Tohatsu 115 weight 392 lbs, two Tohatsu 60's weigh 435lbs (not to mention additional rigging....
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Another thought with a single is thinking about the need to have a 'get me home motor' (kicker) if the main were to hit something and become disabled. The extra weight of twins could be a wash when a kicker motor is also installed on the transom. Although, if both twins were ever disabled, that would be another matter. Much to consider before making your final decision. |
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clayhubler
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Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, much to consider. I am leaning towards a single. I would probably not put a kicker on, as it would void the weight savings. |
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robhwa
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Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:42 am Post subject: |
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DayBreak wrote: | cdoryfan wrote: |
Final thought, a Tohatsu 115 weight 392 lbs, two Tohatsu 60's weigh 435lbs (not to mention additional rigging....
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Another thought with a single is thinking about the need to have a 'get me home motor' (kicker) if the main were to hit something and become disabled. The extra weight of twins could be a wash when a kicker motor is also installed on the transom. Although, if both twins were ever disabled, that would be another matter. Much to consider before making your final decision. |
A potential problem with twins as "get home" insurance is that you usually run with both down and vulnerable. You run with the kicker up and protected. I understand that the ambulance boat here on Anderson Island ran across a bar on inner Oro Bay and disabled both kickers. They had to paddle back. _________________ Rob Harrison & Marcia Ciol
Anderson Island, WA
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clayhubler
Joined: 03 Aug 2019 Posts: 339 City/Region: La Center
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Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 1:12 am Post subject: |
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Yes, twins especially on the 22 are very close together and would likely both hit an object. I once ran aground in the keys and chewed up both props at the same time. However, right now I do have the boat set up so both motors are totally independent of each other, separate fuel, separate battery, ect...
This is starting to be a twins vs single decision...
But I have pretty much decided that I probably will not be getting the tohatsu 60s. I really don't feel like giving up an entire weekend to drive down there and get them when there are a lot of motors a lot closer. |
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clayhubler
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Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Well, after doing a little research and conversing with others I have decided to get a single, and likely a Merc 115 CT. This will probably not happen until fall. I will start a new thread when the time comes.
Thanks to everybody who chimed in with an opinion! |
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Finally2
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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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Oh baby I just saw this. I thought it was my post it hit so close to home. I am currently repowering with twin Tohatsu 60’s at (inflatable) boat specialist in Ventura. I also often run heavy and loaded. Lots of ice, downriggers weights, kids, hell dragging kids in tubes, etc.
I don’t expect to be at WOT nearly ever. I went with twin 60’s for a few reasons. I’m coming from 2003 Yamaha twin 50’s that have been nothing but trouble.
I plan on finally making the trip across to the northern Channel Islands now that I’ll have motors I can trust. Especially anacapa/santa Cruz |
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clayhubler
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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 1:49 am Post subject: |
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Finally2,
I would love to hear what you think of them after some use. I just can't make up my mind. I was really thinking about the Merc but not excited about all the stuff I'll have to redo in the boat to switch to a single. |
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