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Donald Tyson



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:23 am    Post subject: Potty Talk Reply with quote

Has anyone installed a potty enclosure onto the outside deck or interior of their 22 Cruiser? I despise portable potties in the Vee birth area.
Then, after all the goings-on with C-Headgoing out of business, is there any other toilet, composting or otherwise, that fills its place besides Airhead and the other???
I fully intend, whatever boat I purchase, to be civilized aboard...there will be no plastic lined buckets, lol...
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ssobol



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was someone who put an enclosed head compartment on his CD22. Had to reconfigure the cabin interior a lot though. Guess it depends on your personal priorities.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some have made an enclosure of canvas or vinyl in the cockpit to surround the portipotty. There are shower enclosures of vinyl which work.

There are a number of portable composting toilets. These do separate the urine and solids, as the Air Head and similar permanently installed composting toilets.

Putting in the "enclosed head" in the 22, costs the aft seat and part of the dinette. As I recollect the area was totally enclosed so that you loose vision in this sector from the helm. Also the enclosed head eliminated the water tank--That had to be re-located. There are going to be compromises in a small "cruising boat".

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Les offered an enclosed head option for the Marinaut 215. At least one was built with it. I could find a pic of it but difficult to load it here.

For visibility aft the top 2 sections can have windows added with curtains or they can be hinged to fold down to seat height.

I will try finding the pic and paste the link here.

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Rob

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tho I am still a "wannabe" in the C-dory realm, my potty progression in RVs went something like this:

Bucket & Chuckit; VW van, 20mpg
Real portapotty; Alaskan camper on F250, 10mpg
Real (RV) toilet; Bigfoot RV, 7.5mpg.

YMMV, but it seems like "civilized" biology management comes with significant costs.

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Donald Tyson



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 7:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Potty Talk Reply with quote

Donald Tyson wrote:
Has anyone installed a potty enclosure onto the outside deck or interior of their 22 Cruiser? I despise portable potties in the Vee birth area.
Then, after all the goings-on with C-Headgoing out of business, is there any other toilet, composting or otherwise, that fills its place besides Airhead and the other???
I fully intend, whatever boat I purchase, to be civilized aboard...there will be no plastic lined buckets, lol...


I was thinking outside behind the the cabin door. Removable Pipe Frame bolted to floor with canvas surround.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are anchored out in remote locations, the requirement for an enclosure may be reduced. We used to put the porta potti in the cockpit for most uses and really didn't worry about an enclosure. Of course, we did not use it like that when we were in places like marinas.

One example given in the past was a porta potti in the cockpit and a rain poncho.

FWIW, while some people may wish for a proper comfort station, you kind of have to consider how much time you actually spend using it and whether the trade off of having a nice enclosure vs. the space and materials it will take to have one is worth it.

In my mind it is kind of like buying an expensive car. Do you really want to spend a lot of money on something that is going to sit unused most of the time? Some people think it is worth it and others do not.

There is also the whole KISS principle when it comes to waste handling and porta pottis and the like (e.g. Trelino). Not much to them so there is not much that can go wrong. And if it does fail, pitch the whole thing and get a new one. After repairing a marine toilet system (and it will need repair), you will have a whole new level of appreciation of the humble porta potti.
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Donald Tyson



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I'll have to get the boat first to decide if I can sacrifice any space for a permanent head.
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Donald Tyson



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Donald Tyson wrote:
I guess I'll have to get the boat first to decide if I can sacrifice any space for a permanent head.


Come to think of it. Perhaps I should buy a unit and "see how it goes" being used on my properties at home. They don't cost too much and the pre-boat testing may pay dividends.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is one pic of the head installed in the Marinaut 215. You will have to view it on facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/139546952799810/photos/pb.100077650782551.-2207520000/589082721179562/?type=3
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Donald Tyson



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robert H. Wilkinson wrote:
Here is one pic of the head installed in the Marinaut 215. You will have to view it on facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/139546952799810/photos/pb.100077650782551.-2207520000/589082721179562/?type=3


Ahh, Thetford Curve, love the boat in general...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out this one. A 22 with a bathroom space on the port side.

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=8113780425365922&set=pcb.1996565434126075
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