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Donald Tyson
Joined: 24 Jul 2023 Posts: 385
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:23 am Post subject: Potty Talk |
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Has anyone installed a potty enclosure onto the outside deck or interior of their 22 Cruiser? I despise portable potties in the Vee birth area.
Then, after all the goings-on with C-Headgoing out of business, is there any other toilet, composting or otherwise, that fills its place besides Airhead and the other???
I fully intend, whatever boat I purchase, to be civilized aboard...there will be no plastic lined buckets, lol... |
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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3532 City/Region: SW Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SoBELLE
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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There was someone who put an enclosed head compartment on his CD22. Had to reconfigure the cabin interior a lot though. Guess it depends on your personal priorities. |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21279 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Some have made an enclosure of canvas or vinyl in the cockpit to surround the portipotty. There are shower enclosures of vinyl which work.
There are a number of portable composting toilets. These do separate the urine and solids, as the Air Head and similar permanently installed composting toilets.
Putting in the "enclosed head" in the 22, costs the aft seat and part of the dinette. As I recollect the area was totally enclosed so that you loose vision in this sector from the helm. Also the enclosed head eliminated the water tank--That had to be re-located. There are going to be compromises in a small "cruising boat". _________________ Bob Austin
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Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
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Robert H. Wilkinson
Joined: 26 Jan 2011 Posts: 1272 City/Region: Port Ryerse
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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Les offered an enclosed head option for the Marinaut 215. At least one was built with it. I could find a pic of it but difficult to load it here.
For visibility aft the top 2 sections can have windows added with curtains or they can be hinged to fold down to seat height.
I will try finding the pic and paste the link here.
Regards,
Rob _________________ Talk to me and I will listen-- but if its not about boats or fishing all I will hear is bla,bla,bla,yada,yada,zzzzzzzz |
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Esmi2
Joined: 26 Aug 2016 Posts: 67 City/Region: San Luis Obispo, CA
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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Tho I am still a "wannabe" in the C-dory realm, my potty progression in RVs went something like this:
Bucket & Chuckit; VW van, 20mpg
Real portapotty; Alaskan camper on F250, 10mpg
Real (RV) toilet; Bigfoot RV, 7.5mpg.
YMMV, but it seems like "civilized" biology management comes with significant costs. _________________ Eight years a Wannabe!!!
Someone help me break this losing streak by selling me their 22' high top! |
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Donald Tyson
Joined: 24 Jul 2023 Posts: 385
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: Potty Talk |
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Donald Tyson wrote: | Has anyone installed a potty enclosure onto the outside deck or interior of their 22 Cruiser? I despise portable potties in the Vee birth area.
Then, after all the goings-on with C-Headgoing out of business, is there any other toilet, composting or otherwise, that fills its place besides Airhead and the other???
I fully intend, whatever boat I purchase, to be civilized aboard...there will be no plastic lined buckets, lol... |
I was thinking outside behind the the cabin door. Removable Pipe Frame bolted to floor with canvas surround. |
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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3532 City/Region: SW Michigan
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C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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If you are anchored out in remote locations, the requirement for an enclosure may be reduced. We used to put the porta potti in the cockpit for most uses and really didn't worry about an enclosure. Of course, we did not use it like that when we were in places like marinas.
One example given in the past was a porta potti in the cockpit and a rain poncho.
FWIW, while some people may wish for a proper comfort station, you kind of have to consider how much time you actually spend using it and whether the trade off of having a nice enclosure vs. the space and materials it will take to have one is worth it.
In my mind it is kind of like buying an expensive car. Do you really want to spend a lot of money on something that is going to sit unused most of the time? Some people think it is worth it and others do not.
There is also the whole KISS principle when it comes to waste handling and porta pottis and the like (e.g. Trelino). Not much to them so there is not much that can go wrong. And if it does fail, pitch the whole thing and get a new one. After repairing a marine toilet system (and it will need repair), you will have a whole new level of appreciation of the humble porta potti. |
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Donald Tyson
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Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 8:11 am Post subject: |
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I guess I'll have to get the boat first to decide if I can sacrifice any space for a permanent head. |
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Donald Tyson
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Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 9:06 am Post subject: |
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Donald Tyson wrote: | I guess I'll have to get the boat first to decide if I can sacrifice any space for a permanent head. |
Come to think of it. Perhaps I should buy a unit and "see how it goes" being used on my properties at home. They don't cost too much and the pre-boat testing may pay dividends. |
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Robert H. Wilkinson
Joined: 26 Jan 2011 Posts: 1272 City/Region: Port Ryerse
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Donald Tyson
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Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 11:38 am Post subject: |
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Ahh, Thetford Curve, love the boat in general... |
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Sdcotten
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Donald Tyson
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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Okay okay! Now I have a boat and one by one I want to adapt things that irritate me the most to less irritable things.
Gotta change out the portapotti to something less infuriating. I'm a bigger person and these little thetfords are very small.
I know that there are consequences for whatever type one might choose but in concept I like the Gottago by Joolca. It has replaceable cassette type receptacles which can make it nice for extended trips...not that I'm purposely collecting this stuff but I don't want to dump it into an otherwise pure environment either. The portapotti/chemical system seems to be wrought with problems. Not to mention the potential to be sprayed on hot days.
My daughter showed me a system she is using aboard their converted bus. It simply looks like a toilet, sits like a toilet and is an overall good experience. It co-mingles your business and when you're done you lightly cover your business with Pine pellets. There is no odor that I can determine and I now use it at a remote property I own. The system is lined with fitted small bags which lift out and seal for legal disposal. No separating is involved.
I found an improvement in this with a system that separates your business into a liquid tank or a solids tank. It can be used as a bagged system as above or it can be used as a chemical toilet. It all depends on which Cassette you install into it.
No fans and no electric needed. And you can order extra cassettes as needed for the duration of your trip.
Has anyone used the "GottaGo by Joolca. If so I'd like your take on it.
https://www.joolca.com/collections/main?filter-value=.Filter_toilet |
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BigSwede
Joined: 27 Oct 2023 Posts: 37
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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I like the idea of keeping liquids and solids separate, it is definitely less stinky that way. I have no experience with composting toilets though.
Might want to check if 16.9" tall will fit under your V-berth. |
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C-Wolfe
Joined: 16 Sep 2020 Posts: 319 City/Region: Anchorage
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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I have an Air Head composting toilet in my new to me boat and have used it for a full summer now, I can attest that it work very good for me and was pleasantly surprise as I was not expecting to like it very much. It does separate liquids and solids, I empty the liquid every day, the solids, still all in there. I do not use it full time, but I spent 17 night at anchor with 2-4 people on board and another 5 night while traveling back home after I purchased the boat where I use the boat as a camper and sleep in it every night. I much prefer to use my own toilet (remember, it is use as a camper so it’s not a marine head for those few days) then the public one available. It does have a small fan but I do not use it very much, maybe just for 30 minutes or so after use. Once well mixed, it has a little bit of a compost odor that I don’t mind, and only when it’s open. _________________ Stephan
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