19' c-dory
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Bill (DaNag) will know, he bought hull #1!
I remember my first look at Bill's 19 at the Benecia get together in 200...?
Also, Robbi could answer the question!
I'm guessing it was 2001 or 2002 (?)
(Our archives don't go back that far!)
On Edit: 2002: Witness:
2002 C-Dory 19 Angler For Sale
Joe. :teeth :thup
I remember my first look at Bill's 19 at the Benecia get together in 200...?
Also, Robbi could answer the question!
I'm guessing it was 2001 or 2002 (?)
(Our archives don't go back that far!)
On Edit: 2002: Witness:
2002 C-Dory 19 Angler For Sale
Joe. :teeth :thup
blackfish":1nl0ynwv said:
Dave-
No need to dispair!
An older 22 will still be very strong and seaworthy. They're almost indestructable!
And, although you friend will have an older boat, it will be three feet longer, have a solid Alaskan rear bulkhead, and a more complete galley, and I think, a larger dinette. It will also handle the chop a bit better because of it's longer length. In short, it will be a better cruising boat, and can still be fished out of.
Power requirements for the 19 and 22 are identical.
A used 22 is a great place to start.
Joe. :teeth :thup
tom&shan
New member
Anyone have any ideas on comparisons between a 22 and a 19 as far as identical engines and gas milage / speed. I've got a 90 E-Tec on my 19 and I just cant seem to use anywhere near the amount of gas that other folks are burning.Sea Wolf":1tnsp2fj said:
I'm being serious here, I'll have to do an accurate review of my gas burn rate, but with only myself or just the two of us on the boat it seems to sip gas. Of course I'm not cruising at 22 knots, 5000 rpm on a regular basis, usually keep it at 12 to 15 knots and 3000 to 4000 rpm.
Thanks,
Tom
tom&shan
New member
The trim tabs are real sensitive, I usually set them at 30 to 40 %, have the engine trimmed up a bit, and I do have permatrim. Basically I'm still learning and dont have enough experience to yet know how to set everything ideally. I've been playing around, and of course sea conditions are a big factor. Yesterday, the seas were the flattest I've ever been on out of Everett and we ran around 23 knots out to Possession Point and around 16 knots back.
Hi Tom...
Am interested in your thoughts on trim for the 19'. I, too, am just learning what works best depending on conditions. Thus far I'd say we are running about the same trim up to the 12-15 knots range... it's after that cruise speed I am still searching for the right combo of engine angle and trim tab setting. Any experienced words out there would be greatly appreciated.
Am interested in your thoughts on trim for the 19'. I, too, am just learning what works best depending on conditions. Thus far I'd say we are running about the same trim up to the 12-15 knots range... it's after that cruise speed I am still searching for the right combo of engine angle and trim tab setting. Any experienced words out there would be greatly appreciated.
Glad to see this discussion...my new 19' Angler/ 90HP Honda has about 10 hours on it so far and this is my first experience with trim tabs. First lesson learned, don't over trim or the bow will steer the boat! Cruising in the 4-5,000 rpm range I'm using about 1/3 trim with a little more on the port side to compensate for my weight when alone in the boat. I expect it will take some time to find the balance between motor trim and trim tab settings.
Tom, Thanks for the information. The reason that I ask is that I have a hard time cruising at the 12 to 15 knot range. The stern wake is so big the boat just wants to continue down off of plane. I have been putting off buying the Permatrim, but will do so soon. I think that that is the answer for my boat. You are lighter in the stern with the E-Tec. I have trouble telling the difference in performance based on fuel load, but I seldom carry 45-50 gals.
Where and how many batteries do you have on your boat?
Oh, I do remember my first boat ride and using too much trim tab. :shock: That was a wild ride. I soon learned that on my boat, at least, that it doesn't take much adjustment at all. I probably use them for side to side trim more than pushing the bow down.
Robbi
Where and how many batteries do you have on your boat?
Oh, I do remember my first boat ride and using too much trim tab. :shock: That was a wild ride. I soon learned that on my boat, at least, that it doesn't take much adjustment at all. I probably use them for side to side trim more than pushing the bow down.
Robbi
saltspring
New member
My 19 has a Honda 90 on it and a 8hp Yamaha (87 pounds). I do have a perma trim and I find that if I am running at 4,000 4,500 rpm I can trim the motor pretty far up and only have the tabs down one or two clicks. Before the permatrim I found I was messing around with the trim tabs a lot, now I rarely adjust usually just to balance right and left ride.
I find the optimal ride is at about 4,000 rpm which puts me running at about 18-20 MPH. I have not done detailed fuel calculations but it does seem that running a long time over 4,000 RPM uses sharply more fuel.
Nice to see a 19' thread going!!!!
I find the optimal ride is at about 4,000 rpm which puts me running at about 18-20 MPH. I have not done detailed fuel calculations but it does seem that running a long time over 4,000 RPM uses sharply more fuel.
Nice to see a 19' thread going!!!!
I just picked up my '09 CD19 last week and have 2 hours on it. I'm a total powerboat virgin. I'm running a single Yamaha 75 4 stroke and no kicker. My dealer advised having the engine at full down and adjust with tabs. So far I've kept the tabs, Bennett at neutral. So far the water has been flat or 6 inch wavelets and speed only with 3000 rpm as I'm breaking in. The plan is to keep the boat as light as possible aft to keep the handling good. My experience is all with sailboats and we were always weight concious. Almost every boat I've been on performed better when light and trimmed. I'll let you know what I find as I learn. As an aside I am totally impressed with the quality and fit and finish of the boat. When I can figure out the site, I'll load some pictures. Very nice.
Can't wait to see the pix! We looked at the 22', both new and used, but the 19 just fit our needs. We trailer a lot to lakes across NC and will use it on the salt to our east as well. The 19' trailers so easily and sometimes the few less feet make a difference in tight launch areas.
I thought I was reasonably experienced with trim tabs after owning a 22' Dixie cuddy a number of years ago. Gene at Mobile East warned me the Dory would take some getting use to and he was dead on. My first excursion showed me I had an entirely different situation to deal with.
We took ownership just a couple months ago and have been on the water every weekend since. I learned very quickly I'd have to "experience" my way up to top speed! Had it topped out once and about scared myself to death! I'll gladly swallow my pride and admit I have much to learn before I can comfortably zip along with the old salts. (NC gathering folks... I'll be the one at the tail-end of the line rapidly falling behind! LOL)
A comfortable speed for me is now 4000 whatever load I carry. I've learned the adjustments needed up to that running speed. My biggest challenge is shifting weight... a Black Lab who loves to see everything on all sides. I may have to ask Carol to give up her seat beside me... the dog would be very happy helm-side looking out the windows. uummmm... guess that's not a good solution!
So tell me captains... what's the favored trim and tilt settings from 4000 to top out? Conditions flat to one footers?
I thought I was reasonably experienced with trim tabs after owning a 22' Dixie cuddy a number of years ago. Gene at Mobile East warned me the Dory would take some getting use to and he was dead on. My first excursion showed me I had an entirely different situation to deal with.
We took ownership just a couple months ago and have been on the water every weekend since. I learned very quickly I'd have to "experience" my way up to top speed! Had it topped out once and about scared myself to death! I'll gladly swallow my pride and admit I have much to learn before I can comfortably zip along with the old salts. (NC gathering folks... I'll be the one at the tail-end of the line rapidly falling behind! LOL)
A comfortable speed for me is now 4000 whatever load I carry. I've learned the adjustments needed up to that running speed. My biggest challenge is shifting weight... a Black Lab who loves to see everything on all sides. I may have to ask Carol to give up her seat beside me... the dog would be very happy helm-side looking out the windows. uummmm... guess that's not a good solution!
So tell me captains... what's the favored trim and tilt settings from 4000 to top out? Conditions flat to one footers?
Was out on a local lake today with small waves to 8 inches and just cruising at 2-3000 rpm. With 3 hours on the engine I could now bring up the power settings and made a few runs right to wot. I saw 5200 rpm a few times which is close to being right as far as the dealer said. I had the engine trimmed right down as far as possible and no tabs on. I got a porpoise going that was not stopping. About the same time a wake came along and I now know what the guys are saying about slowing down in chop. Got slammed pretty hard just as I was coming off the power. Tough boat. Very stiff. I'm thinking the engine needs to trim up so it's not lifting the transom. A bit of tabs down probably also needed. The porpoising was interesting as I've not seen much about that in any thread. Next time out I'll start with bring the engine up in increments till I find the sweet spot. Anyone else experience the bow hooping/porpoising?
ghone":au6sw8pc said:<Some things edited>
I had the engine trimmed right down as far as possible and no tabs on. I got a porpoise going that was not stopping.
The porpoising was interesting as I've not seen much about that in any thread. Next time out I'll start with bring the engine up in increments till I find the sweet spot. Anyone else experience the bow hooping/porpoising?
The 19 is the same hull as the 22 with three feet removed from the rear, and a different interior arrangement.
Early on, it was found that the shorter hulled 19 porpoised a lot, and needed trim tabs to hold the bow down.
Trim tabs were then added as standard equipment.
The generally accepted view is that the shorter hull is the cause of the instability that makes the boat popoise.
A Permatrim hydrofoil woulod also work to reduce porpoising because of it's leverage at the back of the hull.
Trim tabs also work, and give you lateral trim as well. Some 19's have them both!
Enjoy your new boat!
Joe. :teeth :thup