Another 2005 CD25 Fuel Tank (vent) Question?

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My 2005 CD25, Sea Angel, has two fuel fill and vent ports and a single 117gal (annotated label) fuel tank.

Has anyone added a "Fuel Fill Warning Whistle" to the vent(s)?

If so, what is the easiest way to get to the vent tubing and what size is it?

With two vents, does this decrease the level of the warning if only one whistle is added? My thinking being that the unobstructed vent could bypass the pressure needed for the whistle to work right/loud enough; especially if I'm pumping fuel while standing on the dock.

I realize that while I'm standing in the cockpit and pumping fuel into the tank my weight does cause boat to lay lower on that side and could 'block' some of the air from escaping from the high side.

To date I have used an "attentive ear" to the fill port and hope my guess is right so I don't spill any fuel. So far I'm about 95% ahead of the curve.

Art
 
We installed whistles purchased from Defender. They are for 5/8" hose for the fuel tank vents which is what our boat had. We just cut the vent line and installed the whistles inline. They also suggest the whistles be on a 45 degree angle. Buy one see how it works. I have no idea where to look for your vent lines. We don't have a 25' Cruiser
D.D.
 
Five eighths is common for vent lines. No idea where the lines run, but maybe you can see the top of the tank and figure that out?

BTW, marinas here prevent you from standing in the boat during fueling. Not the case in Virginia?
 
I have never heard of the rule that you can't stand in the boat when refueling your boat on the east coast. I wonder how you do the fuel tank on the opposite side of the boat from the fuel dock fuel dock? Don't tell me you have to turn the boat around. I guess you are much safer standing next to it when she blows. :D
D.D.
 
AstoriaDave":1wlngs09 said:
BTW, marinas here prevent you from standing in the boat during fueling. Not the case in Virginia?
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I've never had a problem with any marina in Washington State allowing me to be on my vessel while I fill it with fuel. I do have all other occupants of the boat exit the boat while I am in the fueling process.

I guess I can understand Oregon having a law like that because they will not allow you to fill your on car/truck fuel tank at a gas station...attendants come out to do that for you.

The above being said, if you are filling your trailerable boat at a gas station, is it also a law that an attendant must perform the actual filling of your fuel tanks?
 
Sea Shift,

I looked for an Oregon regulation preventing standing in the vessel while fueling. Could not find one.

Further, a photo in one of the State pamphlets on clean water practices clearly shows a setup in which somebody is standing in the cockpit, fueling. I am dead wrong about a statewide regulation. Some fuel docks won't let you do your own fueling ... I checked a couple web sites. Locally, some marinas I use have fuel docks remote from the marina office, and pumps are credit card operated, so stand where you like.

And, yes, you fuel your own vessel at gas stations. At the local Safeway and the local Costco, they insist on it.

Run into that cannot fuel while standing in the vessel in Canada, couple places in the Gulf Islands. And they were watching, from a nearby kiosk.[/b]
 
'Localboy'-

I'm not at the marina but remember looking there some time ago but don't remember seeing the vent line.

Thanks for the insight, I'll dig deeper before I buy 2 of these.

Have you added this device to your vessel and how is the working space? The marina was closed due to the Nor'easter we had when I went there this past Friday.

I hope to get there this Thursday, WX permitting.

Art
 
Sea Angel":34ts1apm said:
'Localboy'-

I'm not at the marina but remember looking there some time ago but don't remember seeing the vent line.

Thanks for the insight, I'll dig deeper before I buy 2 of these.

Have you added this device to your vessel and how is the working space? The marina was closed due to the Nor'easter we had when I went there this past Friday.

I hope to get there this Thursday, WX permitting.

Art
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We have an '07. There is a large port and a small port on each side. The larger port is installed on the step itself; the smaller on the cockpit liner above. The smaller port gives access to the vent lines and fill lines; the larger to where the attach to the tank itself.

I have not installed the "whistles" but I have installed smaller ball valve assemblies I got from Fisheries. I believe they are Attwood brand. Since install, I have not blown fuel out the breather vents at all, even on our Desolation Trip where we gassed up numerous times.

They were a simple install; cut line, slide on clamps, install vent, tighten all clamps. Only PIA is the small space you have to work and the sitting, kneeling etc you do to get everything lined up. Took me about 1/2 to 3/4 hour total.
 
Thanks Boris for the pix.

From the your pix I think you have a closed aft section under the motor well and drain 'cockpit hoses'.
My aft cockpit section is open for battery placements and the drains are directly thru scuppers set in the transom.

This opens a question about the difference in the year's production line. My 2005 CD25, hull #075, has a different cockpit layout.
I wonder if this model is actually a 2004 but was assigned the year 2005 since it was manufactured in July.
I seem to remember that it was one of the first out of the molds after a factory move from Kent, WA.

Art
 
C dory was giving July the next year model number at that time.
The 2003 C Dory 23 had the single fill, plastic tank--One or two were replaced with AL tanks--and then the double fill was done because of the difficulty filling with the single side fill. I suspect that your boat was one of the transition boats, before the new cockpit mold was done.
 
Bob;
I bet you are right. In looking at the two setups, I feel that this open area under the motor well lends itself to more flexibility and simplicity. I store my working fenders in this space and can view my fuel filter/water separators easily.

I also appreciate the larger holding tank this model affords.

I also like the flexibility this model affords with all the openness to run electrical cables. Now, the water tank - that's another story.

Looks like my trip to the boat is delayed till Monday. Such are the plans of mice and men.

Art
 
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