How to price a 22' Cruiser

Joy

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Wonder if I could get some advise on how to price my boat for sale? I am looking a purchasing a 2010 TC255 but need to sell C-Joy first. So would appreciate some advise and perhaps advertising media to use.

I have a 2005 fully loaded, this was to be the ideal last boat, so there isn't much that was not installed.

Thanks in advance

Randy[
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Pretty easy choice. The largest number of serious prospective C-Dory buyers cruise through this site and the for sale listings. Buyers can occasionally find good deals on Craigs List but I would trust a Brat seller long before Craigs List sellers.

If you are gonadally advantaged, put it up on Ebay with no reserve. In any case, wherever you market it list EVERYTHING including canvas, model numbers, factory and add on options and trailer ratings if applicable, and add plenty of photos.

With that said, most of your lookie-loo buyers will ask "what comes with the boat" . Serious buyers read.

Don
 
Great advice from Sneaks! He knows, he had to sell his C-Dory! :cry It's indeed a sad day when your health makes you give up one of the things you love most in your life! :unlove Dadmnit! Love ya, Don! :love

As to the price, look through the adds here on the listings on the Homepage, and also the ones in the Classified Archives, and find out what the ones most similar to yours were asking. This doesn't tell you what they sold for, but it will help you set an initial asking price.

Start a little high or optimistic, and come down step by step after a while if you seem to need to, or are in a hurry.

The prices "ain't what they used to be", but that might also work in your direction when buying the Tomcat, but maybe not with a a new boat. It certainly would if you were buying a used boat instead.

Good luck with your sale.

By the way-

Have you tried to work out a trade-in with a dealer?

Also, you might even include in your ad that you'd be willing to trade up with some cash to someone with a Tomcat that wanted to move down to a more efficient or affordable model.

Give it a go, and we'll be waiting to hear your new Tomcat purring!

Joe. :teeth :thup
 
I think c-dorys are priced like houses USE to be....way OVER their value.

Just cause people pay $500,000 for a $150,000....does not make it worth that price.

The little motors on c-dorys are worth $2-3k by the time they are sold, and the fiberglass body of the hull has a magical price that seems to add $20k

My view....just cause some idiot paid $25k for a boat nada.com has at $8k....I'm not going to do the same.

Aside from having a pilot house, good fuel economy....there is nothing to justify half the prices I see.
 
nesibus":2dhwj31p said:
I think c-dorys are priced like houses USE to be....way OVER their value.

Just cause people pay $500,000 for a $150,000....does not make it worth that price.

The little motors on c-dorys are worth $2-3k by the time they are sold, and the fiberglass body of the hull has a magical price that seems to add $20k

My view....just cause some idiot paid $25k for a boat nada.com has at $8k....I'm not going to do the same.

Aside from having a pilot house, good fuel economy....there is nothing to justify half the prices I see.

Nesibus,

I hope you will continue to enjoy your bow rider while us idiots will enjoy our C-Dorys.

Harper
 
The C Dory has retained its value, that is little depreciation from the initial purchase price--at least until the last few years. The boats had a very good reputation, the company had a good reputation. There were more people who wanted boats than boats which were built. The pricing thus follows free market capitalism. Howver, in the last few years other factors come into play. There have been changes of the ownership of the company, there have been more boats produced and more of a mass market type of sales approach. Then the recession. All of these factors have tended to bring the C Dory prices down.

There are many other quality boats which also retain the initial value--for example try and buy a "Cheap" Nordhavn 46--they have been steadily increasing in value.

As for Nesibus, apparently his credit union only uses NADA and thus he seems to think that C Dories should sell for less--a complaint he has opined in the past.
 
When I first started looking over a year ago I thought I would never be able to afford one. I had purchased my 2006 Striper for 23,000 new and it was hard to think the C-Dory was so much more. However, I just waited for the right one to come along. Right color, motors ect and I went for it. Of course that was after much pleading and begging from the wife. This is the boat I have been looking for, for the type of boating I plan to do during my retirement, which is still 5 years away. I figure it will take me several years to get the boat set up the way I want for inside passage cruising. The boat is sitting in Washington and I am in Calif dreaming of all the upgrades that I wish to complete. The upgrades that many of the brats have done has one salivating.
 
nesibus":2tncwmmx said:
I think c-dorys are priced like houses USE to be....way OVER their value.

Just cause people pay $500,000 for a $150,000....does not make it worth that price.

The little motors on c-dorys are worth $2-3k by the time they are sold, and the fiberglass body of the hull has a magical price that seems to add $20k

My view....just cause some idiot paid $25k for a boat nada.com has at $8k....I'm not going to do the same.

Aside from having a pilot house, good fuel economy....there is nothing to justify half the prices I see.

Man, did you get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning, or are you just trying to provoke a flame? I hope you found the boat that best suits your needs.
 
nesibus, i was once told that my bids for repair work were out of site ridiculous by my many competitors. My reply: When I run out of well paying work and have to do cheap work to keep busy I will be right down there with you. I'll never live my life by what I can do without.
 
Wandering Sagebrush":2hgng983 said:
nesibus":2hgng983 said:
I think c-dorys are priced like houses USE to be....way OVER their value.

Just cause people pay $500,000 for a $150,000....does not make it worth that price.

The little motors on c-dorys are worth $2-3k by the time they are sold, and the fiberglass body of the hull has a magical price that seems to add $20k

My view....just cause some idiot paid $25k for a boat nada.com has at $8k....I'm not going to do the same.

Aside from having a pilot house, good fuel economy....there is nothing to justify half the prices I see.

Man, did you get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning, or are you just trying to provoke a flame? I hope you found the boat that best suits your needs.

No.....see...the problem is, I will most likely pay the high price someone is asking, and kick myself later if I try to resell it anywhere around my area. Most likely no one will buy it, we have a dealer that sells ranger tugs....he has sold a grand total of.....1.

So if I try to sell a used one with all of our banks using nada as a value...I will have a heck of a time trying to get rid of it unless someone far away wants it.

Big boats around here are a dime a dozen, so a diesel trawlers, and extremely cheap. If they had to choose between a yacht or the tug, it seems people go for the yachts and houseboats in that same price range.....more bang for the buck basically.

I think the boat is more of a novelty to certain people, and it will only be those people who purchase it, and they don't exist anywhere around this coast line.
 
Nesibus, We sell boats to all 50 states and ship them out of the country as well . Perhaps you are dealing with the wrong people . You are worried about a value in a book instead of enjoying your life and getting what you want . Invest in your own enjoyment before you grow old from worrying !
C Dorys are worth more because of their unique design and high quality and timeless appeal.
They break the rules . In a good way.
My .002$
 
nesibus,

I am afraid you can expect very little sympathy or agreement around here.

A boat's value along with virtually any other product being sold, is based on what someone is willing to pay. Period

The fact that you are here at all means to me that you are a wannabe. My advice to you is save your money and bite the bullet like the rest of us.

Good luck with that.

Capt Dan
 
I just financed my used boat and did 20% down. This was through B of A, and they certainly did not have a problem with the price. Maybe you should look at another bank.
 
Wefings":3brm4tr4 said:
You are worried about a value in a book instead of enjoying your life and getting what you want . Invest in your own enjoyment before you grow old from worrying !
C Dorys are worth more because of their unique design and high quality and timeless appeal.
They break the rules . In a good way.
My .002$

I looked at C-Dory's for around 4 years before actually going into a dealership. There aren't or weren't many in my part of the country at the time but I saw them on a dealers lot. I had many small boats in the past but never a pilothouse boat. When I finally stopped at the dealership I purposely went on a sunday so I could do my looking without being pressured by a salesman. I later found out this wasn't a concern. The particuliar dealership I was at was closed on Sunday and Monday but tuesday morning bright and early I was a C-Dory owner. My first was a 16 and a year later I was at Wefings talking to Mark about trading up. I actually got a really good deal and lost very little in the transaction. I first went to my credit union to finance about 75% of the deal and it was no problem at all. I ulimately paid cash but financing wasn't and issue at all. I don't know how old you are but for myself at 61 with not exactly stellar health I can't afford to not own a C-Dory. I've enjoyed 4 years of ownership and the price I paid doesn't come close to the enjoyed I've gotten. I'd hate to think that someday I might be in the hospital looking like a science experiment with tubes in every orfice and staring at the ceiling wishing I had bought that C-Dory.
 
Nesibus,
The value of any boat (or any other thing) is determined by what the buyers are willing to pay. If you are not willing to pay the market price then you won't get the boat. If you look at the C-Dory 22 Cruiser you see that it maintains its value because people like them. If you look at the C-Dory 29 you can pick one up for less than half its original asking price one year later. Desirability is the key.
Forrest
 
I have to echo many of the previous thoughts.

Yep, C-Dory's are expensive; that's just the way it is. Adjust.

In 2003 I was pretty flush with army money (...thanks to Saddam) and decided to buy a new, "full-meal-deal" (DaveS/SeaShift term I think...) C-Dory. It was 'beaut and we enjoyed her for five years, 650+ hours, and countless days and nights afloat.

In May 2008 I got this wild-hair up my ... and made a Very adult, rational fact oriented, decision to sell C-Dory Naknek. Made a deal, delivered the boat (1500 miles each way!) and put some money back in the bank. I left a pile of money on the table in the process, but felt good about it overall.

I was fine for about four or five months. By the winter of 2008 I realized there was another component to selling a boat (particularly a C-Dory); it is the Emotional component. God, I Loved Naknek! It took me several months without her so realize how important boating was in my lifestyle. Sure, there were Economic, Peak Oil, and other costly concerns; but what are you going to do...hibernate? Life's Expensive; but the alternative is somewhat unsure as well. We all need to decide if we want to be in this boating game or not. If we're in - it's expensive, but think of the possibilities. If we want to play it safe at every turn; buy some books and a comfortable rocker.

By the Summer of 2009 I was in full shopping-mode. I travelled to inspect some boats but didn't find the boat for me. When Three Rivers Marine (Crystal river, FL) called to suggest that I come look at a Cape Cruiser Venture they just received, I did, and the rest is history. Was it costly - Yep. Am I happy - Yep!! ...but now I'm thinking about Possibilities, not history. There's a difference.

Sadly, we can't always pay the price we'd like for the stuff we want, but that's just the way it is in our marketplace. As buyer's or seller's we can always say No to a deal. On the otherhand, how many precious weeks, months, or years do you want to forego waiting for that Perfect Deal?

For me - I prefer to think of the possibilities! ...I'm in planning mode again.

Best,
Casey
 
I forgot to mention ....

While trying to come up with an asking price for C-Dory Naknek I studied the market carefully for several months. I monitored and recorded various ads, and listed the asking prices versus the equipment lists, model, years, etc. I entered all that in an Excel spreadsheet.

If anyone wants a working copy of the spreadsheet please PM me or send an email. The data is now outdated, but the format is still relevant. If you want the spreadsheet be sure to give me your email address (I don't know how to attach the spreadsheet to a PM).

Best,
Casey
 
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