Inflatable for CD22

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Gene&Mary

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Has anyone heard of the Endeavor brand of inflatables? Maritime Marine Centers in Seattle says its their store brand.

What is the difference between hypalon and PVC?

What is the maximum length of inflatable that would fit on the roof of a CD22.......and not look stupid.

Thanks for your help.
 
Never heard of the "endeavour" brand. Hypalon is much more long lasting and durable than PVC. Most people figure 8' is about right for the cabin top of a 22'. We have a West Marine RU 260 inflatable. It lists for about $850 but you can routinely find it for much less. We paid, I think, right around $600. if you have a tall radar arch make sure the dinghy you get will fit under it and between the sides.
 
What is the difference between hypalon and PVC?
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Costs twice as much+++, heavier, more robust, lasts much longer, BUT, is it the best value???

That's tougher to answer.

What is the maximum length of inflatable that would fit on the roof of a CD22.......and not look stupid.
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I wondered the same thing so I dragged Adeline over to the dealer and threw one on top.


Click on the pictureLSI_88_Forward_10_o_clock_View.sized.jpg

That is 8'8" (270). In the album you'll see it photoshopped down to a 7'7" (230).

I myself opted for the 77. Most would be happier with the 88.


More images here
 
Besides the cost difference, hypalon is much more resistant to UV deterioration than PVC materials.

This makes a real difference to dinghies that are used in tropical climates and, particularly, stored outdoors there. If stored indoors, or covered, or in more northern climates, the difference is less.

I have an Avon Rover 280 (9'2") on my Sea Ray that was bought by it's former owner on the coast of Africa after his first PVC dinghy exploded on the beach due to such deterioration and heat.

Marooned on the beach, he wound up having to swim out 1/4 mile for their large sailboat, then pick up his wife closer in, near the surf line.

He bought the Avon (and paid the extra money gladly) after that incident in the next safe harbor!

Joe. :teeth :thup
 
Mine is a 6'6" Archilles(53lbs.,hypalon,inflatable floor) that fits snugly behind the radar on a 26. It runs on a 2hp Honda(23 lbs dry), and holds air well without frequent adjustment. I can get the dinghy up on the roof, and back down, by myself, as well as pick up the engine and mount it while the dinghy is in the water next to the boat, but I won't be breaking through any surf with it. This is strictly an around the harbor deal.

In addition to brand, material, and length you will also need to consider weight, floor type, and how large an engine you will want it to have. If you opt for a tow along, rather then on the roof model, make sure it has a good keel, or it will wander back and forth behind you.

I've had an old Sevylor go from being a three chambered dinghy to a two chambered piece of junk while out in Tomales Bay, and it is not something I would want to ever have happen again; think quality and safety first.

It is not uncommon for people to buy several dinghys before settling on one that is right for them, so I would encourage you to take your time, do your research, and get it right the first time around.

David
 
I have a little more room on the 27 but its no problem to lift a 9 foot 6 dinghy to the roof. I just bring it to the bow and lift the lead rope and drag the dinghy over the bow rail. then its just moving the dinghy to the roof. using the bow rail as a pivot and a resting place while moving the boat around is easy.
 
We have this boat: http://cgi.ebay.com/7-5-BALTIK-INFL...tem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eadb12734

PVC, but the quality appears just as good as others I looked at. Should fit a 22' w/ no problem and I'm able to maneuver it off the roof and into the water by myself. A Suzuki 2.5 pushes it along nicely w/ both M and myself on board, but it's not enough power to plane. Beats paddling....

They have larger and smaller versions too. I think they have a 6.5' and an 8.5 foot model.
 
I have an Avon 2.85 Hypalon boat but the weight and size is more than I want to wrestle up onto the boat so this week I purchased a smaller PVC boat from West Marine. It is PVC and claims to be only 32 pounds so if it is at all durable it should be just about perfect. It is the solstice and is a little long but the weight is right.
 
I used a Power Drifter (11') on my 22 and use the same on my 25. I had Mercury 8 foot rollup, but two people didn't fit into it well if you really wanted to row it. The Power Drifter is lighter (without the rowing frame) and bigger and paddles easily with a kayak paddle.
 
We just ordered a Feathercraft Baylee 3 HD. It is ultralight, should fit easily on the roof and stows in a drybag. Tim Flanagan of Two Lucky Fish wrote about it here in his outstanding blog, NAVAGEAR.
Scroll down or select tenders under the catagories banner. Be sure to click the links to see both of his articles about it.
 
We have a Zodiac 270. It is 8' 6'' or 8'8'' ....can't remember which....but it fits perfectly atop our little ol' 22 cruiser. One of the big benifits of having an inflatable atop of a small boat is storage space. We run with ours right side up which allows us to fill it with gear.....crab, prawn pots etc. You would never believe how handy it is to have that space to just toss in a few things. That being said....don't forget to leave the plug out if heavy rain is what you have.
Cheers, :beer
Tom
 
We took the Feathercraft dinghy for a test ride and introduced it to the dog in a playful way.
It is very well made with the best materials, has high quality oars and includes details and equipment not shown on their website.
For the price it damn well better.
 
I also have a Avon 2.85 with the inflatable floor....I have owned it for seven years...and I really like it....the hypalon tubes are larger than any of the other inflatables I looked at...haven't had a minutes problem with it ever..... I tow it behind , never tired to put it on the top...looks like to much work....when I travel a distance I just deflate it and reinflate it once I get there....it goes up really easy with a 12 volt air pump...no work...

I use a Mercury 4 hp. (about 1966 model) that won't plane the inflatable...but does well against any wind I have been in.... Found it at a yard sale...looks new..probably only used a few times...

If anyone is interested...I have an older (1968 I think) Johnson 4hp. two cylinder 2 stroke that I will sell for about $275...don't use it anymore since I found the Mercury...

Joel
SEA3PO
 
Interesting how materials, opinions, and devices change with time. Not long ago, this thread title would have immediately produced a dozen posts on the excellence of the "Alaska Series" inflatable, and its merits. This thread has been around since July 10, and not one mention of them. OK so I will, in a bit. The question has to do with materials, which has been answered.

More, or of equal importance, should be the consideration of type of use. Consider, are you going to be happy with always rowing or paddling? Are you going to want to power it with a small OB, gas or electric? Are you just going from the mooring buoy or anchor to shore or dock?

Once these questions are answered, then chose, a donut shape, (inflated tube that surrounds the device), or a "V" tube with a transom. Then the weight consideration will help determine the floor material, (plywood slats, rigid, or inflatable (high pressure, keel or flat).

There was a time when they were the premier consideration for an inflatable here. Excellent material, beefed up seams and underside for beaching on rocky shore, and lighter weight, and good service. They are still available I believe, (through Island Marine Center, Lopez Island WA) but they are not the best if OB power is going to be the primary propulsion. The donut shape does not lend itself to that as well as the V shapes with a hard transom. How ever, IMHO it may serve as a better emergency flotation device should one ever have to abandon ship in rough conditions, (due to the donut shape).

Now back to the original programing, Manufacturing materials etc.

Harvey
SleepyC:moon
 
Harvey when we first had the boat I had borrowed an Achilles hypalon donut dinghy. The thing I really didn't like was the soft floor. It was like walking on a trampoline. The one we did buy has an inflatable floor & keel. Much more stable and not having to row is a huge plus IMO.
 
Mark,

I did get a fake Alaskan. (No fur around the hoody) but according to Jim King, it is the same boat. It is a donut but has a high pressure floor, and is both stable and walk-on-able :roll: The donut (IMHO) just does not have the shape to be powered safely with an OB. The V's have a better forward rise, and with power will be less likley to take water over the bow.

Harvey
SleepyC :moon
 
Yeah, the one I borrowed was an older model, so i'm sure they've been improved. I guess it's like anything else; each has their plus & minus qualities. We do leave the wooden seat out to reduce weight, but it's still a load for me to get on/off the roof and into the water.

Aloha....
 
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