New Poo Regulations ??

From the cited article:

Charlie Costanzo, vice-president of the Pacific region for The American Waterways Operators, said the proposal will be costly for many tug boat operators. "It's seems like an easy community to target, but I don't think it is delivering added benefits to Puget Sound," he said. He said it would cost at least $125,000 to add a holding tank, not including other costs."

I'd like to bid on that contract. I did it for $124,992 less on the Limpet. I could make a nice profit.

Mark
 
My town, mouth of the Columbia, has been reconfiguring its waste handling infrastructure going on 45 years plus. As the oldest settlement on the west coast, no surprise it was on 8 (eight!) straight shots to the Columbia until those were diverted and pumped around the point, at tidewater, to a new sewage treatment plant, circa 1970.

Since then, underground storage has been installed at great expense and inconvenience under a ballfield, south side of the town, to handle the ginormous oversupply of runoff combined with sanitary sewer water during storms.

Followed by installation of piping and lateral feeders from EVERY street grate to a separate system to divert all runoff to the river, a process about two-thirds complete.

The cost? Ginormous! Who paid? About half via various Federal grants, the rest by bonds being paid off by surcharges on our sewer/water bills ... said fees now reaching parity with the cost of the water bill, about $75 a month, and due to run another 30 years or so.

So, when I hear people bitching about how much it would cost to deal with Victoria's straight shot system, a single crocodile tear leaves my left eye and slowly flows down my cheek, into the storm drain, headed for ... the Columbia.
 
We will be building a retirement home in Clark County, on five acres we purchased two yrs ago. My plan is to get the entire septic field/system installed this calendar year...even though we won't be building for at least 5.

Our sewer bill where we currently live is already over $80/month and it will never go down.
 
AstoriaDave":1fe8zu5q said:
As the oldest settlement on the west coast,
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History is one of my interests, settlements in San Diego predates Astoria by 50 years, and San Francisco by 35 years. Sorry I just couldn't stand but point that out.

We looked at cabins that had very questionable septics before buying our Camano island cabin which had a modern system. The glacial till soil, which is anything south of deception pass on the Puget sound is so permeable its very challenging to have a fully functioning septic in the old days. Drain fields were often put closer to the water side of the property, and over time, or even in just an extra wet season (as we experienced at our cabin) those banks erode, decreasing that buffer width of the drain field.

It would be naïve to think many aren't contributing nutrients, but its a drop in a bucket compared to the discharge of treated waste into the Puget sound from municipalities. Its really a non issue.
 
I was reading back to the beginning of this thread and saw the note about Port Townsend from Bill.

Yup, I know that smell, and it is the smell of money. That's what the PT folks say anyway. It is not sewage, it is the paper mill, and it gently bathes the general area, some days, some ways, and at first whiff, I always wonder if I stepped into something :roll:

Harvey
SleepyC :moon

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...its a drop in a bucket...
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Yet that does not stop the liberal politicians from attempting to tax it to hell and back, all while they dump millions of gallons into the water due to neglect and utter incompetency.

Move along, folks...nothing to see HERE.... :amgry
 
Ignoring or playing hide the pea over this http://mynorthwest.com/574706/magnolia-plant-meltdown/ is not unique to the Red or the Blue. Further, nobody should overlook it or ignore it.

My eighty bucks every two months (480 bucks year) is pretty typical for my town of 10,000. With some 2000 plus sewer connections, that scales up to about $960,000 a year. Half of that is devoted to retiring the debt incurred in eliminating the straight shots which used to run directly into the Columbia River.

Is it worth it? Just ask the thousands of anglers who wiggle down here, come August, hoping to take home a nice salmon, or the larger horde, seeking same just offshore where the Columbia meets the Pacific.

This is a fishing town, logging also, and a tourist burg as well. We all understand the need to keep poop out of the fish we catch and eat. Those who live in the metro areasof Puget Sound should, also.
 
Poo is poo.

If you came from the sea, poo in the sea.

If you came from land, poo (anywhere but dump it) on land.

Aye.
Grandma used to say, "KISS".
 
Foggy, you might need to reflect on how poo affects fresh water, especially water eventually directed into tap water. And then check out how typhoid, cholera, and diptheria get passed around.
 
AstoriaD,

You missed the eloquence of what I posted by inserting your thoughts into my words.

Aye.
 
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