New to C-Dory. Need help knowing what a 16CD is worth.
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Condition is everything. I take it you are looking at the angler model and not the cruiser?
Check the engine well, 2003 will still be carbuerated, a bit of a pain with the ethanol and varnishing.
Not seeing it, or the amenities (electronics etc), it is in the ball park of fair in my opinion.
Check the engine well, 2003 will still be carbuerated, a bit of a pain with the ethanol and varnishing.
Not seeing it, or the amenities (electronics etc), it is in the ball park of fair in my opinion.
My first concern is the 2x6 board across the transom as part of the motor support. Makes me wonder if this was done for transom rot, or if this is original?
Still a good starting price for negotiation either way. Certainly would like to put my hands on it for inspection before purchasing.
Still a good starting price for negotiation either way. Certainly would like to put my hands on it for inspection before purchasing.
starcrafttom
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not a 19, you can tell by the windows. 19 have three in the front not the 2 like a 16fter.
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Anonymous
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I would be concerned about the freeboard. If the stern waterline is at the bottom paint 8" below the gunnel. That gives you 4-5" at the motor.
Assuming that the core and transom are not severely rotted, that looks like a very good price. Even if there were transom problems, you could get that re-built and still come out ahead. However, given the quality of the work done on the fairly drastic helm modification AND the huge amount of fuel he appears to be carrying in a 16, I'd wonder about any other work the owner has done on the boat. I'm guessing the reason the bottom paint is up so high is that the boat appears to have both the original fuel tanks at the stern + what looks like a fairly large additional tank. If I'm correct, the reason why the main is mounted up higher and the paint line is high, is that he added so much stern weight in extra fuel. If the hull is still in good shape, all of these issues can be corrected and the cost is pretty good. I'd definitely have a surveyor look at the full transom and hull and I'd definitely figure on yanking out and redoing all his wiring, the extra tank and remounting the main. E.g. it looks like a good price on a project boat. If you're willing to take on a project (or pay someone else to take on a project), it could be a good deal.
Alyssa Jean
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A stock 84 did not have the bow pulpit or the rails on the P&S aft gunnels. The helm has been removed much more drastically than I have done to the two 16's I have owned (still have an 89) Take a look at my Alyssa Jean album. She is an 89.
I bought the last 16 with a Honda 50 for $8000 two years ago.
I bought the last 16 with a Honda 50 for $8000 two years ago.
starcrafttom
Active member
The real price of anything is the intersection of what you will pay and what they will take. Nothing else matters.
Alyssa Jean
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My mistake. The first 16 was an 89, the current one is a 92.
potter water
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If I were to buy that boat at any price, I'd tear everything out and start all over on the mechanics, and particularly the electronics. I just wouldn't be happy with all the tubes, wires, etc. It looks like the prior owner just didn't care much about the boat or wasn't competent to do the mods or couldn't really afford to be even in a 16 foot boat. I hope you buy it and rescue it properly so that it will have another 27 years at least as a beautiful CD.
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Anonymous
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Not sure where you are at but for another $1,000.00 this seems to be a cleaner boat.
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=15658
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=15658
Potter Water,
Hi neighbor and yes where I live 90 miles is still close enough to us to be considered neighbor. I must respectively disagree with your premise of the prior owner not caring about the boat. Though sometimes photos can be deceiving to me the boat looks in pretty good condition for a 27 year old. On one hand are the folks who spend the majority of their time keeping the boat looking pristine and on the other are those who would rather spend their time actually boating. Most of the folks doing the more continue boating and not for show know if they want to continue to do so and be secure as possible in the more remote places that good boat maintenance must be done. Of course in between are some who have the the time, money and inclination to do both. With all that extra fuel and the bottom coated to account for it, I'll bet this boat and owner or owners have been there and done things with this boat that would stand the hair up on most of us here.and due to possibly maintenance where it counted now can let someone else use and maintain the boat as they please. The bare bones of the old 16 make the wiring pretty hard to hide, but it would be very simple to dress it up some.
Jay
Hi neighbor and yes where I live 90 miles is still close enough to us to be considered neighbor. I must respectively disagree with your premise of the prior owner not caring about the boat. Though sometimes photos can be deceiving to me the boat looks in pretty good condition for a 27 year old. On one hand are the folks who spend the majority of their time keeping the boat looking pristine and on the other are those who would rather spend their time actually boating. Most of the folks doing the more continue boating and not for show know if they want to continue to do so and be secure as possible in the more remote places that good boat maintenance must be done. Of course in between are some who have the the time, money and inclination to do both. With all that extra fuel and the bottom coated to account for it, I'll bet this boat and owner or owners have been there and done things with this boat that would stand the hair up on most of us here.and due to possibly maintenance where it counted now can let someone else use and maintain the boat as they please. The bare bones of the old 16 make the wiring pretty hard to hide, but it would be very simple to dress it up some.
Jay
starcrafttom
Active member
much nicer boat for the price. I would jump on that one over the other. There are items on the other one i like but you may not need them or want them. I like the extra hand rails and fuel tanks. But you could do that your self and even add side tanks like old growth Dave did. Much better use of space and weight.
A couple of comments:
If you are in Alaska, that makes a difference, but bringing that boat south to the lower 48 will cost $$.
The 50 hp motor looks like a 2-stroke. The cap on the motor cover is most likely the oil tank for the oil injection. If a 2-stroke motor is acceptable, Yamaha has a good reputation.
The boxes in the stern under the seat may be just floatation or could contain the battery and a fuel tank.
The wood plank inside the transom could indicate a soft or rotten core in the transom. The early C-Dorys were built with a balsa core in the transom, and several have required replacement. If that is the case, the boat is not a bargain at $7,000.
It looks like a boat that was used for fishing in AK. As such, and considering its age, its not in bad looking shape. Actual condition requires an inspection, especially seeing the transom reinforcement.
The flat bottom hulls can ride rough and pound more than the newer hulls.
If you are in Alaska, that makes a difference, but bringing that boat south to the lower 48 will cost $$.
The 50 hp motor looks like a 2-stroke. The cap on the motor cover is most likely the oil tank for the oil injection. If a 2-stroke motor is acceptable, Yamaha has a good reputation.
The boxes in the stern under the seat may be just floatation or could contain the battery and a fuel tank.
The wood plank inside the transom could indicate a soft or rotten core in the transom. The early C-Dorys were built with a balsa core in the transom, and several have required replacement. If that is the case, the boat is not a bargain at $7,000.
It looks like a boat that was used for fishing in AK. As such, and considering its age, its not in bad looking shape. Actual condition requires an inspection, especially seeing the transom reinforcement.
The flat bottom hulls can ride rough and pound more than the newer hulls.
Personal opinion: I am concerned by the reinforcement of the transom, by the not as neat wiring and modifications. Some are OK, but over all, I think that the newer $8,000, even with the 40 hp Merc engine is a better boat. It has a splash well, which is lacking in the $7,000 boat. I suspect that the boat in AK will need some work--probably including a transom rebuild. Is it worth $7,000? Probably, but I would like to knock off at least a thousand. DIY transom repair is not that expensive--but to pay someone $100 an hour--it gets costly!
Montana Kev
New member
We had a 1992, 16' cruiser, just sold it last year to buy the 22. The 92 was a great boat, very well built. I am sure you could pick up a nice used 4 stroke for a repower at some point, they are out there.
Good luck with the search.
Good luck with the search.