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Just dealing with a transfer to a new marina for a couple of weeks and the fellow is being a bit of a ? As I have never had to actually measure before and will not be out until Sunday any thoughts or measurements would be great. 22 Cruiser with twin 50's. The rate jumps over 24 ft. He is a turd and will be there with a measure tape in hand. Sorry for using foul language but stuff , happens.
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You could leave the engines down for a couple weeks and be about 23' 6"". I think if the guys a turd though move to another marina. Life's too short to deal with folks like that around boats. George
 
You mentioned a turd. My guy measured my boat while it was still on the trailer before I could go to my berth, with a plumb line from the anchor overhang to the back of the engines, 25' 5".

Martin.
 
The issue is the manufacturers give you a length... without motors, swimsteps, anchors/rollers. The marinas charge by length. Actual length. I once had a marina guy ask how long the boat was. When I told him, "25 feet," ('cause that's what the manufacturer calls it)... he asked: "If I put you in a 25 foot slip, how many feet of boat is going to hang out of it?"

He put us down as a 28 foot boat. And charged accordingly.

Everybody is feeling the squeeze, marinas included. Additional boat length means more revenue for them.
 
From the marina's point of view, what matters is how much dock or slip length can't be rented to someone else. What the boater is paying for is the exclusive use of space.

Nobody is fond of a Scrooge (except Scrooge's stockholders and, I dunno, maybe Scrooge's mom). On the other hand, as a marina tenant myself, I'd rather have the owner be fairly strict on measuring than have him let someone put 28 feet of boat in the 24 foot slip just across the narrow fairway from my boat! On a windy day with the tide running strong, it can be nerve-wracking enough trying to get in or out of a slip when the fairway is as wide as it's supposed to be. The added fun of a fairway narrowed by protruding sharp pointing things like anchors or skegs really puts my knickers in a twist. The same can be true at the walkway end of slips when over-length boats are snugged in as far as possible leaving a gauntlet of bows to weave through with a dock cart. Especially in a tough economy, some marina owners are understandably loath to turn away any potential paying tenant just because his boat is a "little" too long for the only available slips.

I don't know what the configuration is of the mooring space you're hoping to find, or whether you're seeking wet or dry storage, for that matter, but sure hope you can find a reasonable and fair operator.
 
I guess the thing that ticks me of a bit is we are in full on boating season and the marina is half empty. You would think they would give a bit of a break and fill it up , other than having a bunch of empty slips. rate is 7.50 per foot under 24ft and jumps to 10.50 over 24. Oh well , bite the bullet and continue on :wink:
 
Shellback--this is very normal practice thru much of the marina world. Try coming down South--Pensacola is one of the cheapest areas and it is $13 to $15 a foot a month--and cheap at $1.50 to $2.00 a foot a night for short term. If you get down to South Florida you will find high end Marinas are going as high as $50 a foot a month or more. Over night stays are as much as $5 a foot a night. But in comparison to the Med that is low--where I have heard as much as $100 a foot a night, and diesel over $12 a gallon.

The over all length measurement is also very common--unfortunately.

A number of years ago I had a Cal 46, which would measure over 48' with anchors etc. I needed to get it in a 45 foot slip (because of availability for a liveaboard slip). I chopped some off the transom, modified the pulpit and put a removable anchor roller on. I got it down to 44' 7/8" using plumb bobs. The Marina then measured the boat and pronounced it was 42 feet long! Go figure.

Just consider that few extra bucks are the cost of doing business. Just keep repeating "the cost of dong business"--it needs to be a manta and then you can enjoy the boat more and not get upset about it!

Have fun and enjoy the boat--that is what it is aboutT
 
ShellBack":y8as4q38 said:
I guess the thing that ticks me of a bit is we are in full on boating season and the marina is half empty. You would think they would give a bit of a break and fill it up , other than having a bunch of empty slips. rate is 7.50 per foot under 24ft and jumps to 10.50 over 24. Oh well , bite the bullet and continue on :wink:
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Sounds like Scrooge could use some law of supply and demand study, as well as a course or two in customer relations! :roll:

Dr Bob is right, as usual. Enjoy the boat. Illegitimi non carborundum!!
 
Ommmmm, Cost of doing business Cost of doing business Cost of doing business Cost of doing business. Ahhh. I feel much better. Thanks Bob for the good advice :D :thup
 
I'd rather have the owner be fairly strict on measuring than have him let someone put 28 feet of boat in the 24 foot slip just across the narrow fairway from my boat! On a windy day with the tide running strong, it can be nerve-wracking enough trying to get in or out of a slip when the fairway is as wide as it's supposed to be. The added fun of a fairway narrowed by protruding sharp pointing things like anchors or skegs really puts my knickers in a twist. The same can be true at the walkway end of slips when over-length boats are snugged in as far as possible leaving a gauntlet of bows to weave through with a dock cart.




My dock guy allows up to 18" overhang. I am in a 25' slip and with my 22 coming in at 25' 5", I passed.

Martin.
 
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