Recent WA restrictions - do they affect boat ramps?

[smckean (Tosca)]

I've seen a number of derogatory comments in this forum about pot shops being open during these virus lock downs. Allow me to inject a possible thought into your criticism. For many people, marijuana is a necessary medical treatment. Pot shops may be open for the same reasons pharmacies are.

P.S. On a personal note, my best friend of 60 years died a couple of years ago of lung cancer (he was not a smoker). He did not enjoy smoking pot during his life. But in the last 2 years of his life, especially while on chemo, we talked him into to trying it. Pot made a huge difference in his like. He re-gained his appetite, he could sleep again, his zest for life recovered a bit. I guarantee you he would have needed a pot shop open were he still alive.

 

[westward]

Sandy,
As an acute and intensive care therapist who works with oncology patients, I’m well aware of the medicinal value of marijuana for nausea and pain relief. I think what we’re talking about, however is recreational pot shops, Which by definition provide a product intended for recreational use. It’s curious that most other forms of recreational business have been temporarily banned, But pot shops remain open.

It’s also interesting to note, that in so-called red states governors have declared gun shops to be essential, due to their arguable role in helping citizens self defend. But in blue states, governors are prioritizing the closing of gun shops and ranges. Of course the inverse is true with pot shops, though they don’t tend to exist in red states to any significant degree.

I Don’t personally have a problem with medical marijuana remaining available, especially in the edible or tincture form, which do not damage lungs.

The point isn’t to debate the value of marijuana or guns, but to note the tendency of various governmental leaders (of all persuasions) to use crisis as an opportunity to further their pre-existing agendas. My rights abridged today might become your rights abridged tomorrow.

 

[dotnmarty]

for those of you who are worried about running out of guns or ammo during this public health emergency let me know. I can't promise anything but I'll see what I can do. :roll:

 

[localboy]

for those of you who are worried about running out of guns or ammo during this public health emergency let me know. I can't promise anything but I'll see what I can do. :roll:

Not to worry. The men & women in blue are out, risking their health, and lives, to protect you and yours while record numbers of criminals are being released onto the streets to prey on society. You’re welcome.

 

[localboy]

I've seen a number of derogatory comments in this forum about pot shops being open during these virus lock downs. Allow me to inject a possible thought into your criticism. For many people, marijuana is a necessary medical treatment. Pot shops may be open for the same reasons pharmacies are.

P.S. On a personal note, my best friend of 60 years died a couple of years ago of lung cancer (he was not a smoker). He did not enjoy smoking pot during his life. But in the last 2 years of his life, especially while on chemo, we talked him into to trying it. Pot made a huge difference in his like. He re-gained his appetite, he could sleep again, his zest for life recovered a bit. I guarantee you he would have needed a pot shop open were he still alive.

Ah, yes. The “medicinal pot” excuse. For pot head stoners to use truly sick people for their kicks is disgusting.

 

[localboy]

I'm sure the gun shops could stay open by appointment with strict infection control, whereas I question how essential pot shops really are to our civic well-being, at a time when pulmonary health is at a premium.

One must also consider that one of these is literally, a Constitutionally guaranteed right and one is a violation of federal drug laws. But then some states & state administrations only enforce laws they consider politically expedient.

...the tendency of various governmental leaders (of all persuasions) to use crisis as an opportunity to further their pre-existing agendas. My rights abridged today might become your rights abridged tomorrow.

"You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that...it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before."

Rahm Emanuel (D)
Former Mayor of Chicago & Chief of Staff under President Obama

Seems some people are taking this lesson to heart...

 

[hardee]

Anyone have any gouge as to whether the recent state and county restrictions on "water access" closes boat ramps? I'm in Port Orchard send usually use that ramp but could travel a reasonable distance for an open ramp if necessary.

Please note, I'm not trying to subvert the intent of the "shelter in place" (I'm probably more of a disease vector than anyone, given that I'm an airline pilot by day). It's just that I'm going to have some time off, and the water seems like a reasonable place to isolate. I'd like to know if I can splash the boat without running afoul of anything...

Not to derail the trend of this discussion, but a friend C-BRAT sent me a link to the Salish Sea Pilot, an "e" guide for the entire Salish Sea system, from Olympia to Port Hardy. Here is the link to the other C-Brat site thread:

http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=28305

There will be a link there to the Salish Sea Pilot guide website, and they have a current list (as of Mar 25. 2020), of the closure status of 99% of everywhere :shock:

Harvey
SleepyC :moon

 

[dotnmarty]

for those of you who are worried about running out of guns or ammo during this public health emergency let me know. I can't promise anything but I'll see what I can do. :roll:

Not to worry. The men & women in blue are out, risking their health, and lives, to protect you and yours while record numbers of criminals are being released onto the streets to prey on society. You’re welcome.

my point exactly. Thanks for clarifying it. Stay safe out there

 

[Stearmandriver2]

Can't imagine what the political silliness had to do with anything. There is humor - or at least irony - to be found though, in the fact that those complaining about politicians managing to use anything as an excuse for their political agenda managed to turn a thread about boat ramps into a place to espouse THEIR political agenda. :lol:

Thanks for the link, Harvey. I just saw it in the other post too. Good stuff...

FWIW, I drove by the Port Orchard boat ramp yesterday. No blockages, no signs, nothing to indicate a closure, so I'm going to interpret that as it being open. Especially in light of the P.O. fuel dock also being open.

 

[smckean (Tosca)]

westward,

I think what we’re talking about, however is recreational pot shops, Which by definition provide a product intended for recreational use.

In the state of Washington, there isn't really any distinction between and "medical" and a "recreational" pot stores anymore. Medical users go to pot shops that also sell for recreational use all the time. Indeed, my friend of 60 years who died of cancer used to go to a store close to his house (I know.....toward the end I had to do the driving). His doctor encouraged his MJ use and said to buy whatever he liked.

I Don’t personally have a problem with medical marijuana remaining available, especially in the edible or tincture form, which do not damage lungs.

That's a false choice. You need not choose between smoking when using it for recreation, or eating it for medical use. Plenty of folks only use edibles for recreation. Indeed, one of the reasons my friend liked to go to the local pot store was that he got tired of taking pot in certain ways. Also, like for most any medical drug, he had to take more and more as his tolerance built up. Eventually he settled on buying butter laced with MJ oil at the recreational pot store. He liked to cook, so he would make brownies, eggs with buttered toast, and many other dishes using the pot butter instead of straight butter. He didn't mind the taste that way, and he could easily vary his doses too.

 

[westward]

Tosca:

Nice try. You and I are not in fundamental disagreement about the medical use of marijuana, but your logic around why it's still recreationally available when other things are not is unpersuasive, to put it charitably.

How about the fact that vaping establishments have been deemed essential businesses in WA State? I thought vaping was considered by the medical community to be damaging to the lungs of its users? Are vaping establishments a good choice for essential listing at a time of severe and widespread pulmonary disease?

Suffice it to say you're comfortable with Governor Inslee's choices because you share his sensibilities. And I'm more skeptical because I don't. We are both impeded by what we think we know. That's the honest truth, and I'm OK with it.

You stay safe, and get out on the water ASAP!

I have strayed pretty far from the topic of boat ramp closures, so I think I'd better stop now

 

[forrest]

One thing you can say for certain is localboy never lets an opportunity to stir the pot pass him by.

 

[Stearmandriver2]

Well, by way of an update, I can report that I launched at the Port Orchard ramp today, was gone a few hours, then recovered and took my time in the lot prepping the boat for travel. No one seemed to mind. Didn't see any other pleasure boats until I got out past the southern tip of Bainbridge; few sailboats out enjoying the breeze and the lumps. Discovered my Wallas exhaust fitting through-hull leaks water when submerged. Already found the thread for that. RTV silicon sealant is on tomorrow's shopping list haha...

 

[smckean (Tosca)]

At the risk of being criticized for returning to the "pot" topic in this thread, I can't resist because of what I hope is good ironic humor for everyone of all persuasions.

As I've mentioned in another thread.....although I consider myself liberal, I have the unusual habit such that my listening to media is about 70% FOX and conservative talk radio. Most of my liberal friends can't imagine how I stomach it; and most of my conservative friends can't imagine why I would listen to anything else.

So I was listening to Rush Limbaugh the other day. He went to commercial break. Now, I suspect we can all agree that generally conservatives are negative when it comes to marijuana; Rush certainly is. I laughed out loud when the commercial, done by Rush himself, in his very own voice, was for CBD oil :lol: :lol:

 

[TyBoo]

Most of the ramps in Oregon are closed judging by what is posted on the fishing forum sites. Warrenton and Hammond have the ramps open with the pictured sign at the pay stations. These ramps give access to the Columbia River and from there to the ocean.

My boat is moored in the Warrenton marina and I have been going down to check on it most every day. There have been increased incidents of car prowls and thefts in town with all the craziness going on so I like to make sure nobody has moved into the boat. There are a few live aboards at the marina and they are good folks so I am not too worried about things down there.