Size matters...

[Les Lampman]

Larger cleats are a good thing!

Here are a couple of photos showing the difference between a standard 8" cleat and the heavy duty 8" cleat we're using on the Marinaut:

 

[hardee]

Les,

Thanks for posting that. Is the hole pattern the same, IE, would the HD cleat you are using be a standard, "switch the bolt" replacement for what is on my cruiser, or I guess, the light duty one in the picture?

I need to take my cleats off, re-bed and back them, and it would sure make sense to do the switch at the same time. IMHO.

Thanks for your reply.

Harvey
SleepyC :moon

 

[Les Lampman]

Les,

Thanks for posting that. Is the hole pattern the same, IE, would the HD cleat you are using be a standard, "switch the bolt" replacement for what is on my cruiser, or I guess, the light duty one in the picture?

I need to take my cleats off, re-bed and back them, and it would sure make sense to do the switch at the same time. IMHO.

Thanks for your reply.

Harvey
SleepyC :moon

Hi Harvey,

The bases on the cleats I have are different; the heavy duty model's base is wider and further apart.

Les

 

[starcrafttom]

I would want to know if the smaller cleats are adequate or not. I mean just what are you going to do with these cleats? I use mine to tie up the boat and hang fenders from them. Do I really need something that I can hang the boat from? can I hang the boat from the smaller cleats? the biggest load that I have placed on my cleats was towing a larger boat with the aft cleats on my 22, what size where they? What ever size they were did a great job and never showed any sign of ware or stress. some times bigger is better but just not needed.

 

[Jack in Alaska]

My present CD came with a really small, whussey looking bow cleat which was poorly bedded and not backed. It did not look to be sufficient enough to hang a bumper on let alone securing the anchor line to.
I replaced it with a 10" galvanized heavy duty cleat. It is properly bedded and backed and works well. I pull my anchor with a buoy so there is considerable strain placed on it.

Starcraftbottom........go with reasonably the best available as you never know how or when something will be used to it's max or more in an emergency.
Doesn't your CD have tow eyes on the transom????

 

[starcrafttom]

I don't think that the 22 did have eyes but I dont remember. I will have to drive by its current owners homes. He lives near by so its easy.

 

[thataway]

Backing plates are very important--at least fender washers under the cleat. With enough force cleats can break, but it is more likely to pull out of the boat. In the larger boats we would put a 3/8" plate of Aluminum under the forward cleats, and windlass bolts, so that they were all tied together. Bed the aluminum in epoxy--and it is going to be very strong.

 

[Les Lampman]

I would want to know if the smaller cleats are adequate or not. I mean just what are you going to do with these cleats? I use mine to tie up the boat and hang fenders from them. Do I really need something that I can hang the boat from? can I hang the boat from the smaller cleats? the biggest load that I have placed on my cleats was towing a larger boat with the aft cleats on my 22, what size where they? What ever size they were did a great job and never showed any sign of ware or stress. some times bigger is better but just not needed.

Tom,

I'm sure the smaller cleats are adequate in almost all situations that folks will use them in. The larger cleats (they're the same 8" length just beefier) look better on the boat and since they have a larger opening (between the vertical legs) it's easier to get a line and a fender on. They also accommodate a 1/2" line better; I use that too rather than the (for me) too small 3/8" stuff.

So in this case I say they're better because they look better and are easier to use. I doubt seriously if you'd ever break the standard model, much less the heavy duty ones.

Les

 

[Jack in Alaska]

Les,

Making it big and looking good is called making it "oilfield" where I worked.
If you can't put a line on it and lift the boat out of the water it is a POS and not oilfield.

Jack

 

[Les Lampman]

Les,

Making it big and looking good is called making it "oilfield" where I worked.
If you can't put a line on it and lift the boat out of the water it is a POS and not oilfield.

Jack

:lol:

Oilfield it is then!

Les

 

[hardee]

Tom,

My Dad taught me to never bet unless it is a sure thing, so here goes.

I am betting you one nights stay at the SBS CBGT that your 22 had tow rings, or otherwise known as tie-down loops on it. You just can't see them from inside the cockpit.

and Les:

Go "oilfield". I'd like them on my boat too, for the same reasons you mentioned. That way nobody has to ask, "Where's the beef?" Guess that has to do with my penchant for belt and suspenders, dual purpose, and redundancy and over kill and such.

Harvey
SleepyC :moon