This boat is an odd duck but has some cool ideas

South of Heaven":1kbou1em said:
localboy":1kbou1em said:
That is one FUGLY boat.
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Which one?
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Haber 20 Mini Reporter. Sorry. Should have been more specific. It looks like the lifeboat from the Tom Hanks movie...truly ugly. :lol: I'm sure it's all about function...
 
My question would be with the low HP (4 to 8 HP), what happens in heavy winds? The answer they have are two leeboards on each side. One to provide better handling when docking and the aft ones to provide better tracking.... Basically flat bottom boat, with no real keel, and a very high cabin house.

I happen to feel that 4 HP is enough to make steerage way in a C Dory 22 (but it may not be in the direction you wish to go.) What if you are caught off a lee shore in heavy wind? This is one place I see danger with this type of boat and power.
 
It looks like it was inspired by the Nimble Nomad, which has a following. When hunting for small cruisers I drove to Maryland and looked at one. Nomads have a wonderful interior layout with lots of usable features including an enclosed head, in about the same space as a 22 Cruiser. The little bow cockpit is great too. Low power and the hull design make it more of a canal and calm water boat, but they're still for sale on some of the websites.
 
I simply do not understand the Sea Piper design where you have to go outside to access the forward cabin and head. That center cockpit area seems a bit of a waste and the forward cabin blocks your view from the pilothouse. And none of that seems necessary.
 
BillE":2oyy4kdw said:
I simply do not understand the Sea Piper design where you have to go outside to access the forward cabin and head. That center cockpit area seems a bit of a waste and the forward cabin blocks your view from the pilothouse. And none of that seems necessary.
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I like the look! It looks a mini oil tanker! But it's definitely a unique style and probably won't appeal to many.

Let's see how many they sell. Lol. It could end up like the poor Eco Trawler 33! They're still trying to sell their first 2 boats.
 
I guess it depends somewhat on where you use it. The separate fore cabin won't be such a big deal in warmer climes. There are other boats with visibility issues. I happen to like the open center section, although extending the brow or a bimini or hardtop might be in order. The large space in the center section gives lots of storage/tank/battery space.

There are a couple of improvements that could be done. Raise the helm station a bit and enlarge the fore cabin.

For the size of the boat the fore cabin seems a bit small. I would shorten the center section a bit and make the fore cabin longer. Also remove the fore cabin walkway on one side and carry the cabin roof over to the hull side. Or have a narrower walkway on one side like the Swifts do.

I would carry the full width of the salon back to the aft cabin too.

IMO, one of the problems with the Eco Trawler was that it was too long and narrow. If you want to go to the front you have to go all the way to the back and then all the way to the front via the ledge. Yes there is a fore hatch over the berth, but for in and out access to the anchor or mooring lines that can be a PITA. The narrowness of the cabin interior was a bit off putting.
 
What do you think the C-Dory 25 Cruiser would be rated as? I had a quick google search with no luck.
thataway":jl1hiax1 said:
In Europe each boat has a classification as to what it is capable of:

A Class A yacht ( boat ) is a vessel that is built to navigate the open ocean and surpass a force 8 on the Beaufort scale and surpass waves higher that 4 meters. These yachts are constructed to be self sufficient in hostile seas.

A Class B yacht ( boat ) is a vessel built to navigate on the offshore waters (200 miles and less) and can substain UP TO force 8 and waves UP TO 4 meters.

A Class C boat is a vessel built to navigate inshore such as lakes, rivers, bays and close to the shore and can sustain UP TO force 6 and waves UP TO 2 meters.

A Class D boat is built for protected or sheltered waters such as canals, rivers, small lakes and sustain a force 4 and waves UP TO .3 meters (less that 1 ft).

These are class D motor boats--waves up to one foot.
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the Sea piper boat has been posted here before and I think it brakes down to two camps. Those that like the open mid section and those that do not. I think its a great. I see it as a great place to visit and as a form of privacy from the main cabin. It will be far harder for susan to stop my all night bull sections at events if I can send her off to bed and away from the noise. I think that the area is screaming for some sort of cover or canopy. It would be a great bot for the inside passage or the loop.
 
I agree with Tom and some others in that I like the look of the Sea Piper. The separation of the head and bed from the wheelhouse and galley. For a cover over that section, a rack with a dingy would do nicely. I like that it is "trailer-able" and economical to run.

Still have to agree there are improvements that could be done. Not sure I like not having immediate access to the wheelhouse during the night.

Harvey
SleepyC :moon

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