Tugs in Atlanta
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I hope to see the R 29 at Wefings next week (?). My major concern is the cost of over $239,937, plus transportation and taxes--will be at the $250,000 level--at this economy. Although the boat is fairly well equipted, the options I might consider would include:
Aft bimini top with boot
Aft side-enclosures, clear Strato-glass (Aft bimini required) ($4,500)
Air Conditioning w/ Rev cycle heat 16,000 btu main salon, 10,000 btu master stateroom ($7,000)
Anchor Pkg, 22# Anchor, 50’ Chain, 200’ line (I would want a larger anchor) ($600)
Diesel Heater, 14,000 BTU forced air furnace ($5,500)
Macerator discharge w/ Y-valve ($460)
Trailer EZ Loader Galvanized #12,500, triple axle, disc brakes (I would want at least 14,000 lbs capacity). ( $7,500) It would not take a lot more of accessories to bring the total cost up close to $300K (adding things like AIS, the extra fuel tank, bigger generator (if available) etc.
Amounts are estimates, but probably fairly close and are equal to an extra $25,5660
Aft bimini top with boot
Aft side-enclosures, clear Strato-glass (Aft bimini required) ($4,500)
Air Conditioning w/ Rev cycle heat 16,000 btu main salon, 10,000 btu master stateroom ($7,000)
Anchor Pkg, 22# Anchor, 50’ Chain, 200’ line (I would want a larger anchor) ($600)
Diesel Heater, 14,000 BTU forced air furnace ($5,500)
Macerator discharge w/ Y-valve ($460)
Trailer EZ Loader Galvanized #12,500, triple axle, disc brakes (I would want at least 14,000 lbs capacity). ( $7,500) It would not take a lot more of accessories to bring the total cost up close to $300K (adding things like AIS, the extra fuel tank, bigger generator (if available) etc.
Amounts are estimates, but probably fairly close and are equal to an extra $25,5660
Jeff Brigner
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Hey Doc...
When you and Marie get yours can Cathy and I go for a ride :lol:
You guys please put us on your stop to see list when you head up this way :thup
When you and Marie get yours can Cathy and I go for a ride :lol:
You guys please put us on your stop to see list when you head up this way :thup
Sam Walker
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Marc and Jeff. :thup :smiled
The show today was an absolute endless line of folks waiting to get on the R 29 . There was at least a 50' line more folks in line to see it for at least 6 of the 11 hours of the show and some line for 8 or 9 hours! The smiles and comments that I saw and heard [as I was doing crowd control] when folks came off the boat at the bottom of the steps said it all . They would just keep plowing up the stairs till there was no room to see the boat, move around or even get off the boat . Tomorrow is the last day and it will be open till 6 P.M. I still have tickets at the will call for anyone that mentions Wefings .Next stop is Stuart Trawlerfest , there will be a more focused crowd that are all into Trawlers and we are looking forward to a little warmer temps . We are all tired but very pleased with the response .
More to come , thanks to everybody who came to see us there and to Bruce, Charlie, and Jeff M.for their hard work.
Marc
More to come , thanks to everybody who came to see us there and to Bruce, Charlie, and Jeff M.for their hard work.
Marc
I looked over the R29 yesterday in ATL and by way of amplifying Marc's comments: The boat is awesome! The space aboard and thoughtfulness of the layout is great. My wife and I were very impressed. For example, the port cockpit stairs that flip open reveal a very professional-looking wiring hub. Plenty of room for extra batteries if you wanted to add more for the house.
/david
/david
Starry_Night _Joe
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We have pictures to post of the new R-29 coming over from the boat launch to the piers at Hutchinson Island Marriott for Trawlerfest. (they are on my wife's camera and need to be uploaded).
Andrew and Marc will also be able to post the results of the speed curve we developed after to show tonight. The boat handles nicely, she is as stable as a 25 in a high speed circle and figure eight.
Joe
Starry Night
Andrew and Marc will also be able to post the results of the speed curve we developed after to show tonight. The boat handles nicely, she is as stable as a 25 in a high speed circle and figure eight.
Joe
Starry Night
I spoke to Marc a short time ago. He mentioned that the internet connection at the hotel was not ideal. It also sounded as if he and Andrew had been working nonstop for several days, and that all were "bushed"...
But he did mention that the R 29 hit over 21 mph (Knots?) and he thought with the correct prop that it would be a boat capable of cruising at 20 mph (Knots?).
But he did mention that the R 29 hit over 21 mph (Knots?) and he thought with the correct prop that it would be a boat capable of cruising at 20 mph (Knots?).
Just finished looking at the slide show and the specs on the Ranger site. Nice looking boat! Went to TugNuts but did not find answers to these questions:
1. What is a realistic weight for the boat on the trailer? I assume with a 10' beam a permit will be required (I recall an earlier discussion in which folks talked about trailering overwide w/o permit and no problems.)
2. What are some gph and mpg numbers or projections for this boat?
3. The visuals don't show where the guest berth is located -- do you go down below to access it?
4. Are Garmin electronics a requirement? I have an investment in Raymarine-compatible nav cards that I would have to replace if I went to Garmin.
Looking forward to seeing the boat in the water at SkipperCress this spring.
Warren
1. What is a realistic weight for the boat on the trailer? I assume with a 10' beam a permit will be required (I recall an earlier discussion in which folks talked about trailering overwide w/o permit and no problems.)
2. What are some gph and mpg numbers or projections for this boat?
3. The visuals don't show where the guest berth is located -- do you go down below to access it?
4. Are Garmin electronics a requirement? I have an investment in Raymarine-compatible nav cards that I would have to replace if I went to Garmin.
Looking forward to seeing the boat in the water at SkipperCress this spring.
Warren
Doryman":v2q3tbgi said:
A drop in the bucket compared to the overall price. :wink:
A friend of ours bought an R-25 at the NO show. His dealer is installing Raymarine electronics. I took him out yesterday for some helm time in Wild Blue to let him get a feel for the Raymarine stuff. No doubt, he'll be paying be back with some time in his new tug when it's ready. 8)
Pat Anderson
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We (along with a slug of our Brat friends) saw the R-29 at the VIP preview at the SBS last night as guests of Ranger Tugs. Dave and John Livingston and Jeff Messer were of course there, and we all enjoyed the drinks, cheese, champagne and Ranger and Yanmar hats we left with (Robbi got a neat clock, wouldn't trade me for the dang hat!).
The R-29 is REALLY impressive, the extra size is only able to be appreciated when you see it in person and climb aboard. The "veeberth" is now a bona fide stateroom, the R25 "coffin cabin" is now actually useful as a berth, there are all kinds of amenities (anybody need an electric wine cooling cabinet?), microwave/convection oven, bigger fridge, TV, etc.
But approaching $240,000, the price tag is impressive too. And you would not really call this boat "trailerable," I would say it is rather "movable" on a trailer. Permits are required, the permits to haul the R-29 from Seattle to Atlanta were $400. But the main thing is, you are not going to routinely trailer this to Bellingham or Olympia for a CBGT (or whatever the corresponding term is for Tugnut get-togethers). So you really have to figure in-the-water moorage into the costs of this boat. Is it worth it? It is a little more money than the Nordic 26 and a little less money than the Nordic 32. But I guess everyone is going to have to figure this out for themselves. For us, like a Nordic 32, it would be a "cash in the house" type of alternative, and right now, to use Jim B's words, the CD25 is a "just enough" boat - so we have no pressing need to get a bigger boat. But it sure would be sweet for that extended (months, not weeks) cruising to Alaska, Mexico, or the Great Loop!
The R-29 is REALLY impressive, the extra size is only able to be appreciated when you see it in person and climb aboard. The "veeberth" is now a bona fide stateroom, the R25 "coffin cabin" is now actually useful as a berth, there are all kinds of amenities (anybody need an electric wine cooling cabinet?), microwave/convection oven, bigger fridge, TV, etc.
But approaching $240,000, the price tag is impressive too. And you would not really call this boat "trailerable," I would say it is rather "movable" on a trailer. Permits are required, the permits to haul the R-29 from Seattle to Atlanta were $400. But the main thing is, you are not going to routinely trailer this to Bellingham or Olympia for a CBGT (or whatever the corresponding term is for Tugnut get-togethers). So you really have to figure in-the-water moorage into the costs of this boat. Is it worth it? It is a little more money than the Nordic 26 and a little less money than the Nordic 32. But I guess everyone is going to have to figure this out for themselves. For us, like a Nordic 32, it would be a "cash in the house" type of alternative, and right now, to use Jim B's words, the CD25 is a "just enough" boat - so we have no pressing need to get a bigger boat. But it sure would be sweet for that extended (months, not weeks) cruising to Alaska, Mexico, or the Great Loop!
patrick and linda
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i'm signing up for a r29, just as soon as byrdman loans me the money!
pat
ps: anyone wishing to make donations can do so immediately by sending a significant amount (cash only, please) to byrdman, in trust for me.
thanking you in advance!
i remain, your most humble appreciative servant.
pat
pat
ps: anyone wishing to make donations can do so immediately by sending a significant amount (cash only, please) to byrdman, in trust for me.
thanking you in advance!
i remain, your most humble appreciative servant.
pat
For that much money the R29 would get pretty stiff competition from the Ocean Sport 30. I know, apples and oranges, but I really like the OS. Then there is the Bob Austin alternative, to buy a used Nordic Tug or similar and spend some of the difference on upgrades. And I still have a hankering for a Diesel Duck!
An academic question at this point, however. Like Pat says, a cash in the house option for us too. It's fun to look and run the comparisons, though...
From the new C-Dory website, it appears that the Venture 29 is out of production. No one will miss it except maybe Tom Latham. :twisted: However, I see a nice little hole in the C-Dory lineup, for a 30' Tom Cat!
Warren
An academic question at this point, however. Like Pat says, a cash in the house option for us too. It's fun to look and run the comparisons, though...
From the new C-Dory website, it appears that the Venture 29 is out of production. No one will miss it except maybe Tom Latham. :twisted: However, I see a nice little hole in the C-Dory lineup, for a 30' Tom Cat!
Warren
I agree with Warren--even about the Ocean Sport, but that is a 35 + knot boat with a 700 mile range at cruising speed. However it has I/O's (even volvo's have some disadvantages).
For $250,000 on up when you add in all of the essentials...you can buy a very nice 48 foot twin diesel cruiser (used). But this is how you use your money, and if you want to transport the boat (easily) We had a 9' 6" beam boat and often had to pullover on narrow roads to allow other traffic to pass. We had limits because of overhanging trees
I think that the Tom Cat in a 30 footer would have been a winner, over the C Dory 29. But again you have a boat which would probably have the wider beam.
I surveyed a 30 foot Motor Cat this last week. It was an interesting boat, but not my cup of tea. It did have great accomidations two quarter berths (real quarter berths) and a full queen, plus a settee/table which would seat 4 to 5 comfortably and a very easy to use head, with privacy and a good size shower. But again all of these things come with the increased size.
For $250,000 on up when you add in all of the essentials...you can buy a very nice 48 foot twin diesel cruiser (used). But this is how you use your money, and if you want to transport the boat (easily) We had a 9' 6" beam boat and often had to pullover on narrow roads to allow other traffic to pass. We had limits because of overhanging trees
I think that the Tom Cat in a 30 footer would have been a winner, over the C Dory 29. But again you have a boat which would probably have the wider beam.
I surveyed a 30 foot Motor Cat this last week. It was an interesting boat, but not my cup of tea. It did have great accomidations two quarter berths (real quarter berths) and a full queen, plus a settee/table which would seat 4 to 5 comfortably and a very easy to use head, with privacy and a good size shower. But again all of these things come with the increased size.
We have over 5000 miles on the R29 , have not been as much as looked at whether we had permits or not . I have towed it and launched and retrieved it with our ancient 175 HP Ford dually shop truck [locally]with no problem and the boat is right around 11k towing weight dry. FYI . It performs exceptionally well. More pics and video soon on wefings.com . The response has very positive for us for those that are looking for this type of product . We are pretty popular here in Stuart at T Fest.Definitely a niche that has a growing place in the boat market . There is nothing quite like it .
Marc
Marc