Been battling this problem for several years in my CD22. If the boat sat in water and collected rain in cockpit the cabin filled with up to 2" of water. I knew the seam at base of cabin bulkead was cracked and figured it was the cause. I tried heavy 5200 along seam to little avail. This spring I had the entire seam reglassed professionally including sealing off the drain hole. Today I launched the boat for first time and had to take it back out to address an unrelated issue. In the brief moments it was in the water, I managed to collect a cup of rusty colored water at the step to the berth area. I am totally mystified where this water can possibly be coming from. Is it possible to have water in the hull that is seeping out somewhere? I don't know where to go from here.
Water in Cabin Yet Again
- Thread starter homerjack
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Wandering Sagebrush
Free Range Human
The screw holes for the bronze keel band were sometimes drilled too deeply. Try pulling them to see if you get a drip/wrap from one or more of them. The water is possibly in the floatation foam under the berth.
The brass strip is one place, the anchor locker is another. My boat did not have a good bottom to the anchor locker, and no drain hole. I put in a drain hole, glassed in a tube from a new bottom to the outside.
Some boats have gotten water forward from the deck fittings leaking as well as the rub rail.
Some boats have gotten water forward from the deck fittings leaking as well as the rub rail.
homerjack":17ilsbfw said:
You may still have an anchor "locker" at the forehead peak of the vee birth and they typically have a drain with a clam shell cover on the Port side above the water line. In heaven water, Big waves or wakes you can get water intrusion into that clam shell. In some cases that drain is not intact, and can allow water to get into the space between the hull wall and the basin of the anchor locker, allowing the water to get down to the space under the portal potty recession.
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As others have mentioned, there may be some yellow/orange colored foam in the forecabin (supporting the V-berth footwell area). If water comes in anywhere "above" that it can easily sit in the foam and thus become "rusty" colored. Then later it drains aft...
As said above, the most common culprits for water ingress there tend to be the bronze bow strip screws and the anchor locker tabbing/drain area. It would also be possible that any other leak ahead of the V-berth/cabin bulkhead could seep down into that area and then find its way aft (bow pulpit stanchion bases, etc.).
Compromised core can also cause brown/rust colored water - that might have a sweetish smell, but based on the common findings I'd much more likely suspect the bow strip or anchor locker tabbing areas first. (The anchor locker base may be made of plywood, so that's another thing that may be involved.)
As said above, the most common culprits for water ingress there tend to be the bronze bow strip screws and the anchor locker tabbing/drain area. It would also be possible that any other leak ahead of the V-berth/cabin bulkhead could seep down into that area and then find its way aft (bow pulpit stanchion bases, etc.).
Compromised core can also cause brown/rust colored water - that might have a sweetish smell, but based on the common findings I'd much more likely suspect the bow strip or anchor locker tabbing areas first. (The anchor locker base may be made of plywood, so that's another thing that may be involved.)
I had an issue early on with water getting into the cabin of my 22. This is probably obvious, but one thing to check is if the water is salty or not (assuming you're in salt water). If salty, obviously it's through the hull someplace and the brass keel guard is a likely spot. If fresh, it's rain water. In my case, the rain water was getting in through a bad seal around the fresh water fill port. On my previous 22 (a more recent model than yours), the water fill was just forward of the bulkhead on the port side. Just aft of the water fill was a raised bit of glass that was designed to keep water from flowing down the top flat surface of the gunwale and into the cockpit. This raised area creates a little "dam" and water puddles there. With a bad seal around the fresh water fill port, water would run down behind the aft seat cabinet and then seep out on the the cabin floor.
Another possibility is rain water entering though the riveted holes for the rub rail. That can happen anywhere the rub rail is attached and again water can leak behind the cabinetry and run out onto the cabin floor.
Another possibility is rain water entering though the riveted holes for the rub rail. That can happen anywhere the rub rail is attached and again water can leak behind the cabinetry and run out onto the cabin floor.
if the floatation is saturated--then removing it, and putting storage in, is the best way to get at it. However, it is probably not saturated.
Is there no deck pipe (for the anchor rode to go into the forward well, in front of the V berth? If there is no deck pipe, then you are correct it is unlikely that water is getting in thru the anchor locker. (which all of the 22's have--look forward of the fiberglass bulkhead forward of the cushions.
Is there no deck pipe (for the anchor rode to go into the forward well, in front of the V berth? If there is no deck pipe, then you are correct it is unlikely that water is getting in thru the anchor locker. (which all of the 22's have--look forward of the fiberglass bulkhead forward of the cushions.
BTW - for a boat the age of yours (1988) it's unlikely that the brass keel guard screws are the issue. That issue happened mostly in the early 2000 years (like maybe 2002-2004). It's possible that someone made the same mistake 12 years earlier but seems unlikely to me. The issue at the time was installers using screws that were too long and penetrating all the way through the hull. In a boat from 1988, I'd suspect some failing sealant or rub rail rivets as a more likely cause (unless of course it's saltwater).
Thanks Roger. There is a locker but no pipe or other passage from deck. It's salt water as water appeared on launch on a clear day. If floatation is orangy, I suspect from there given color of water. Driving me nuts.
I did have keel damage couple of years ago at tail end of keel from enounter with rock that was repaired and in good shape...
I did have keel damage couple of years ago at tail end of keel from enounter with rock that was repaired and in good shape...
Don't assume that it is salt water (without tasting or other determination)--the water may appear because of the "attitude" of the boat when floating vs when it was on the trailer.
Also, is it possible that the water got into the foam/ under the forward area when you had the prior problem, and appears now because of the attitude of the boat in the water?
Also, is it possible that the water got into the foam/ under the forward area when you had the prior problem, and appears now because of the attitude of the boat in the water?