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This thread has evolved from a discussion about EQ Marine's status as a C-Dory dealer to business and management philosphies of the recreational boat building industry. Since we are wandering off topic, I might as well throw in my $.02 into the discussion. I admire the courage of anyone...

While I haven't purchased a boat yet from Les, I had the opportunity to work with him when I sold my Toland 18-8. Les is a straight shooter and a pleasure to deal with! If C-Dory has any common sense, they should continue working with E.Q. Marine and appreciate the integrity and value that...

The boating marketplace ultimately determines the success of any new boat model launched. The 26' Tollycraft sedan, the 32' Bayliner motor yacht, and the 32'Nordic Tug are good example of successful boats have had long production runs. A few years ago at the Seattle Boat Show, C-Dory Marine...

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. This boat doesn't resemble a Toland design except for the pilothouse and the hull graphics. This boat looks more like the first cousin of a 30 foot Osprey. The plan appears to be well thought-out. This boat will provide a level of creature comforts that...

Hi Dave, I agree with you completely. Ben Toland is an artist that happens to design and build delightful boats. My Toland 18-8 was a sweet boat, and I am still amazed how Ben could design a boat that is less than 19 feet long and still have full standing headroom without looking top-heavy...

Hi Dave, I have been enjoying following the progress of your hull extension. Have you had a chance to launch your "new" hull yet and have a sea trial? Don't leave us in suspense! Best regards, Leo

That's funny that the name Brunsw**k should appear. I was reading an article in the Business section this morning about the acquisition of C-Dory by Brunsw**k. The article stated that once the aquisition is final, the Bayl**er nameplate will become history and the boats built by Bayl**er...

This thread has been quiet for awhile. Are there any updates with this ongoing saga? Leo

In the previous post from Les, I see two phrases that jump our as "red flags" "broaden the appeal to a larger market" "market a boat that works in many areas and appeals to a wide audience" It worked for Bayliner! Bayliner Marine started out as a local Seattle area builder of fiberglass...

Hey Roger, We aren't through beating this topic to death yet! :) Mike, I do agree with you that they could have made some changes to the cabin, perhaps a forward raked winshield as on the Sea Sport 24' explorer, or side windows in the trunk cabin as with the 25' Tomcat, but then again, they...

Hi James, I appreciate your response. Because I am a residential architect, I probably focus on the design aspect more than others. (and probably too much) Many designers typically repeat certain design elements that over time become a "signature" to the designer's work. Edwin Monk Jr. is a...

Hi Jim, I would like to share a different perspective. Some of the folks at CC were involved in the original design and development of the C-D. C-D was sold to Scot Reynolds. Scot didn't design the boats, but rather took an existing company and expanded it. The CC bears a strong resemblance...

For a used boat under 10k, I would consider an aluminum boat with an outboard motor. I had an outboard Smoker-Craft that I purchased used, held on to it for two seasons, and sold it for about $300 less than I paid for it. I would RUN from anything that had a sterndrive on it, regardless of...

Hi Don, I just recieved my RV Consumer Group information yesterday. I started reading their book on evaluating RV's and what an eye-opener! The quality of the information I recieved from this organization is money well-spent. I will check out the Lazy Daze yahoo group. Thanks for the...

Thanks for your responses! Coming from a boating background into the RV world, There is a lot to learn. The RV world is big on glitz. Sneaks (Don) has turned me on to Lay Daze, which appears to be the D-Dory of the class C world. The hype in this industry is amazing and the RV salepeople are...

It's DejaVu all over again! Some of these remarks remind me of the good old days when Red Fox and TyBoo were 86'd from the C-Dogs. I hope we can maintain an open mind and a sense of humor.

Hi Bill, Congratulations on your new boat. I owned a Toland 18-8 and was cordially welcomed at the C-Dory gatherings, even though my boat was not an "official" C-Dory. It seems that there are more similarities than differences between the CC and the C-D. I hope you will post some photos of...

I'm looking at class C motorhomes with a Ford E350, v-10 rig. Most of these MH are rated for 5k towing capacity. Does anyone in this group tow with a C? The towing looks easy, the launching and retrieving might be a different story. Would you consider a backup camera to be an essential item...

Hi Dave, I also forgot to mention that El and Bill have a great article on the Columbia River on their Halcyon Days site. Bill also alludes to the strong winds on the river. The other consideration for traveling on the Columbia is that commercial traffic (tugs and barges) have priority over...

Hi Dave, Your trip should be quite an adventure. I have wanted to make a similar trip, but I figured it would be going "downhill" riding the mighty Columbia to Astoria. Having grown up boating on the Columbia, I would like to offer some thoughts. Depending upon the time of year you choose to...