19 ft vs 22ft?

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jkswor

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Still trying to decide on the correct boat for me. How does the 19 ft angler compare to the 22 ft angler or cruiser? in rougher water?
Thoughts please.
Jim Swor
Tok Ak
 
Not only that, it's three feet longer! :mrgreen:

In all seriousness, we need to know how you're going to use it, where you're going to use it, how many people you want to carry, etc.

You first....

Charlie
 
Fishing in and around Valdez, Ak. It is about 10-12 miles through the narrows to the beginning of the Halibut fishing grounds. The silver fishing is also good out to that point. The winds come up in the afternoon and can get above 2 ft.
I need to feel safe coming back in that sort of sea. Would be just me and the wife who says she wants to keep the wind off her and rain, ect. We currently have a 17 ft inflatable with a 40 hp on it. Although safe, it is rough, cold and wet, and uncomfortable. Cant get out to the bays unless the weather is good, so stuck in around 4-5 miles of the harbor.
Have looked at a 22 ft cruiser but have not seen a 19 ft. Just wondering if they act alike in 2 ft and above seas, ect.
Jim
 
You don't see many 19s out of Seward where I typically go. But, you do see lots of 22s and 25s for what that is worth. I have boated out on the arm before and it gets really rough there from the bay breezes as you surely know. It is even rough with the CD22 when the chop really gets going - I can't imagine how much rougher the little CD 19 would be. My vote goes for the 22 or the 25 if you can swing it.
 
For what it is worth, I would go with the 22, (at least). I cross the Strait of Juan de Fuca occasionally, and coming home after the 4th of July weekend, we had a beam sea, generally running 3-4 ft and occasional sets of 4-5, with about 20% whitecaps, and wind, (also out of the west) at about 10-15. We made it home fine, but did have to slow to 7-9 knots for much of it, jog and slog, I've heard it called, adding about 5 miles to a 25 mile crossing, due to having to turn into the waves on a rather regular basis, to keep the bow into the weather sea and take the breaking waves on the bow. The boat will take a lot more than the crew, and I was glad for that. Had a couple of pretty hard slams, but everything held together well and the bilge pumps never even cycled, though the wipers were on almost all of the 3.5 hour crossing.

The 22 cruiser has a closed in cabin, like the angler, but the 19 does not have the aft cabin bulkhead. Funny, but that makes me feel a lot safer. So does the twin engine arrangement, especially in that kind of weather. I doubt a kicker would have the power to do the job if a big single had quit.

Sorry, I didn't get any video. would have been great, but I was kind of busy.

Harvey
SleepyC :moon
 
Harvey,

Those are the conditions that I often go out in and consider good......LOL... I would sure rather have flat calm.....Just the other day I passed around Cape Resurrection with 8-10 foot stacked up chop, a tide rip, and waves rebouding off of the island....It was just freaking great.....And flat calm when I left....As many have pointed out, the boats can take a licking and it is the crew that has problems. It was a tough day in the washing machine that I would rather forget. I have boated out your way too as a visitor on my brother's boat and wasn't the nicest experience either....

Tim
 
So, is it better to have one which is a 1987 or newer with the semi v bottom, or does it matter if the boat has a flat bottom like the pre 87 models? There seem to be a lot of the older flat bottom boats available in the 22 ft model. A man in Fairbanks told me that he would not want one prior to 1987 because of the rougher ride of the flat bottom boats.
jim
 
I've owned both, loved both. The 19 is for a different mission. fishing weekending, short trips like 5 or 6 days. The 22 can be and is a full time live aboard. You can fish out of it or do whatever you like.
I found after 5 days on the 19 moving the stove to make lunch and then clearing off a spot to do dishes got tiresome. The 22's all up galley and dinette make all the difference. The 35 k between the the 2 boats was a deciding factor also. I got both new.
My 22 is a live aboard long term cruiser warmer and dryer than my 19. I loved that 19, she was a sweety. My 22 is also a great ship, tough and easy to work with. George
 
ghone":3jpzbpdr said:
I've owned both, loved both. The 19 is for a different mission. fishing weekending, short trips like 5 or 6 days. The 22 can be and is a full time live aboard. You can fish out of it or do whatever you like.
I found after 5 days on the 19 moving the stove to make lunch and then clearing off a spot to do dishes got tiresome. The 22's all up galley and dinette make all the difference. The 35 k between the the 2 boats was a deciding factor also. I got both new.
My 22 is a live aboard long term cruiser warmer and dryer than my 19. I loved that 19, she was a sweety. My 22 is also a great ship, tough and easy to work with. George
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Pardon my ignorance...do both the 22 cruiser and angler have those mini galleys? What about the little dinette--?? thas only in the cruiser, right?
 
Alnac;
No mini-galley in the 22 angler, just a table and seats. I also have a stove and heater in my cabin,with storage compartments under the seats etc.
Wapiti
 
wapiti":280k34y1 said:
Alnac;
No mini-galley in the 22 angler, just a table and seats. I also have a stove and heater in my cabin,with storage compartments under the seats etc.
Wapiti
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So, just to be clear...the Angler has the little dinnette table and chairs, but not the alcohol stove and sink systems....is this correct? V berth still the same size?
 
My 22ft angler has no sink, but I have a wallas diesel stove/heater in my cabin with the dinette. I am not sure but I think the V-berth is the same size.
Wapiti
 
the v berth on the 22 Angler is the same size as that on the 22 cruiser, at least as of 2007. In 2008 the manufacturer at the time stopped offering the Angler model with the bulkhead door. Other recent postings on this site lead me to believe that the current manufacturer would be willing to build a 22 Angler with the rear bulkhead and door installed. I've owned both a 1991 22 Cruiser and the 2007 22 Angler ( as well as my current 16 Angler). Both 22's were great but the Angler was much better suited for our use which was day use for commuting and fishing. I loved the large cockpit and we still had a dry, cozy cabin. The Cruiser would have made much more sense had we been overnighters, or been inclined to take multi-day trips aboard the boat. My wife still wants us to get back into a boat that "has a door you can shut". Chicks love boats with doors you can shut. All the best, Mike.
 
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