1KW generator or 2KW generator?
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Ashley Lynn
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:cocktail :cocktail Byrdman proved that the 2kw can run a commercial type blender :cocktail :cocktail
Captains Cat
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Heck, the Byrdman would use a belt drive from the prop if he had to!! :lol: :lol: :thup
Charlie
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Captains Cat":q5s34uoi said:
Yeah, and who needs AC when you have margaritas, dacheries, and other yummy beverages? But, back on the subject, for the tiny amount more that the 2000 costs and the little amount of extra weight, I say why not? But, with that said, my vote is for no generator at all.
Pat,
While those of you living in the NW "Emerald Isle" have no need of such nonsensical contraptions, there are parts of the world, yea, even of the USA, where, for part of the year, the dragon's fiery breath scorches the earth to a degree that only vultures move. Even mosquitos are grounded when the sun's out in those heat waves!
The dry deserts allow our human evaporation system to work, but these humid, hot climates leave us buried under dozens of hot, steamy, wet, blankets.
Maybe it is "Nature"here, or maybe the people living here are missing the correct chromosomial mix to survive.
I am guessing your own personal survival up there involves special chromosomes which allow your body to convert good beer into a temperature drop?
Anyway, I have heard of a land of Eden, far to the NorthWest, in which airconditoning is not even in the language!
'Hope you're doing OK with all the snow up there. It is actually warm in Kansas this week! In the high 60's tomorrow.
John
While those of you living in the NW "Emerald Isle" have no need of such nonsensical contraptions, there are parts of the world, yea, even of the USA, where, for part of the year, the dragon's fiery breath scorches the earth to a degree that only vultures move. Even mosquitos are grounded when the sun's out in those heat waves!
The dry deserts allow our human evaporation system to work, but these humid, hot climates leave us buried under dozens of hot, steamy, wet, blankets.
Maybe it is "Nature"here, or maybe the people living here are missing the correct chromosomial mix to survive.
I am guessing your own personal survival up there involves special chromosomes which allow your body to convert good beer into a temperature drop?
Anyway, I have heard of a land of Eden, far to the NorthWest, in which airconditoning is not even in the language!
'Hope you're doing OK with all the snow up there. It is actually warm in Kansas this week! In the high 60's tomorrow.
John
I got a call yesterday from Lake City Honda and the generator I ordered the night before would be in by the afternoon. They told me they would get them by 1PM but they were closing down at 2PM. They wanted to make sure that if I wanted it for Christmas I could get it. I indicated it could wait until I could safely drive. Still, I was impressed with the customer service and the quick response to an online order.
OK now that you've "Bitten the Bullet" :wink You can go down to COSTCO and spend half the money for a 5 K Gen set that you can use to drive your neighbors crazy and power up your house. :xlol Have a GenTran Isolation switch installed so you don't upset the crews working on the lines. :smileo
For most people the 2 KW is the best choice. We have both a 1 and a 2 KW--Honda. We use the 1 KW on the CD 25 (didn't use it all last summer, but then we didn't use the airconditioning on the boat, except at the dock. There are plenty of places out West where AC is very nice. As I recollect at Petaluma I had the only boat with airconditioning--temp about 100 degrees, with high humidity. The 1 KW will run the WalMart Artic King 5000 BTU air condition, which fits nicely in the window of the C Dory 25 or 22. It will also run a 30 amp battery charger and a 600 watt heater (all we often need for the C Dory25 --but the Wallas, is more convenient), and one of the smaller "Galvez" microwaves. However, we find that most of the time, our outboard will produce all of the power we need for most uses.
On the Tom Cat 255, we use the 2 KW, because we have an 8300 BTU roof air, which is used fairly frequently, as well as a larger microwave, and it will run the water heater. We use the Garhauer davit to lift the generator from its box in the cockpit to the swim step and avoid back strain with that.
The Honda i series use a 12-15 volt DC primary alternator output, which is then taken up to very close to a pure sine wave 120 volt AC. So that even at idle they are producing 60 hz--and by my measurements and scope photos I have seen the power is quite clean on the 120 V AC power side--the 12 volts DC has some ripple between 12 and 15 volts.
We have used the Honda 2000 to run several refigerators during storms. But we have a 6.5 KW contractors generator, and a 16 KW natural gass pure sine wave generator for major power outages at the house--as Roger noted these are auto start and will carry most of the house loads. Things are cheaper in Florida--and the total cost was only $4700, including a solid concrete block base, 42" high, along with brick vinier and full autostart electrical pannel and gas hookup. (Fireman working on off days for labor). But we are in an area subject to relitatively frequent power outages.
On the Tom Cat 255, we use the 2 KW, because we have an 8300 BTU roof air, which is used fairly frequently, as well as a larger microwave, and it will run the water heater. We use the Garhauer davit to lift the generator from its box in the cockpit to the swim step and avoid back strain with that.
The Honda i series use a 12-15 volt DC primary alternator output, which is then taken up to very close to a pure sine wave 120 volt AC. So that even at idle they are producing 60 hz--and by my measurements and scope photos I have seen the power is quite clean on the 120 V AC power side--the 12 volts DC has some ripple between 12 and 15 volts.
We have used the Honda 2000 to run several refigerators during storms. But we have a 6.5 KW contractors generator, and a 16 KW natural gass pure sine wave generator for major power outages at the house--as Roger noted these are auto start and will carry most of the house loads. Things are cheaper in Florida--and the total cost was only $4700, including a solid concrete block base, 42" high, along with brick vinier and full autostart electrical pannel and gas hookup. (Fireman working on off days for labor). But we are in an area subject to relitatively frequent power outages.
2covesover
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As a new member I do not post often. But in reading this thread on generators I recalled the problems many people here had during the last big ice storm. Many generators had been left with fuel in them and would not run.
The problem is the plastic fuel floats, over time they soak up fuel and sink in the bowl. Stabilizer will not help the problem. The only solution is to run them dry before you put them away.
There was a company that was making replacement brass floats but I have lost track of them.
So when the boating season is over just let the generator run out of gas.
The problem is the plastic fuel floats, over time they soak up fuel and sink in the bowl. Stabilizer will not help the problem. The only solution is to run them dry before you put them away.
There was a company that was making replacement brass floats but I have lost track of them.
So when the boating season is over just let the generator run out of gas.
rogerbum":2tar29vz said:
A generator you might consider is a 16,000 watt Guardian. Instead of $7000 plus it would be about $3400. It comes with the automatic switch which is worth about $400. Which you must put in the line. It starts its self every week at the time of your choosing. Runs for twenty minutes and shuts off. Keeps the battery warm and charged. Runs on propane or natural gas. I have had mine for two years now. I darn near went with a 5000 Honda. It would have cost a lot more money and not be near as effective running the house. It keeps the house warm and freezer cold in case of power failure when we are gone for months. Check it out...
www.guardiangenerators.com
captd
http://norwall.com/index.php?cPath=17_2 ... agodD3YlCg
Here is a good place to buy those Guardian generators. With free shipping. The models have changed since I bought mine. I hooked it up myself. It is not hard.. Good luck
captd
Here is a good place to buy those Guardian generators. With free shipping. The models have changed since I bought mine. I hooked it up myself. It is not hard.. Good luck
captd
Captains Cat
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I'd prop it very carefully in that little space forward of the engine(s) and make sure it doesn't fall off!! :roll:
Charlie
Charlie
Thanks for the reminder.....I do need to get new props for the blender. She has been cranking things out for about 10 years now....no real food/drink quality issues at this time, but one should not be out with only one prop...
Roger: Will your new gen have the new 30amp set up on the front? Pretty nice and easy for hooking to shore power systems on boats rather than having to keep up with the extra adapters???
Have not had my hands on one of the new ones yet.
Byrdman
Roger: Will your new gen have the new 30amp set up on the front? Pretty nice and easy for hooking to shore power systems on boats rather than having to keep up with the extra adapters???
Have not had my hands on one of the new ones yet.
Byrdman
Byrdman":19i32y81 said:
No it doesn't. The model with the 30A adapters retails for about $100 more AND the other model had an additional $100 off for a net difference of $200. Since I already had a 30A-15A adapter and since the generator doesn't put out more than about 13-15A, I saved the $200.
I'm actually surprised, considering Honda's conservative nature in designing and equipping things, that they would put a 30 amp female plug-in fitting on a 2000 watt generator that only puts out about 1600 watts continuously under load.
(The Honda 2000's are rated 16.7 Amps, 2000 Watts max draw intermittent, AND 13.3 Amps, 1600 Watts continuous).
The 30 amp plug, at 120 volts, could be expected to face demands of up to 3600 Watts from whatever's attached to the other end of the male plug.
But then again, if you had two of them linked together, and they could both feed through the one outlet, and there's a note to proceed to use the plug under specified conditions, well....OK, I guess!
Joe. :teeth :thup
(The Honda 2000's are rated 16.7 Amps, 2000 Watts max draw intermittent, AND 13.3 Amps, 1600 Watts continuous).
The 30 amp plug, at 120 volts, could be expected to face demands of up to 3600 Watts from whatever's attached to the other end of the male plug.
But then again, if you had two of them linked together, and they could both feed through the one outlet, and there's a note to proceed to use the plug under specified conditions, well....OK, I guess!
Joe. :teeth :thup
Hey Brother Joe!
I am glad they did design it. I am sure that there is a small part of the market who would use one just as I would on my boat and realize there is not 30 amps, but, at the same time, allow us to use what is there to recharge our boats,.....and run that AC at night for a good nights rest.....or, keep the blender going while rafted up with others.
That also allows us a "safety net" to use our marine boat systems too.
I have ran a pair of the Honda 2,000 from the Brigner's boat C-Pearl. Awesome....and just like shore power on the go. But, the 2,000 works great for most things, even if you have to turn the hot water on for a great hot shower at the end of the day....followed by the AC to knock out the humidity....so the shower did some good.
But, like the others, I have a bag full of adapters and I will keep them all. Never know what situations may come about when on the waters, particurarly when rafted up with others.
Keep things steady in CA Brother Joe!
Byrdman
I am glad they did design it. I am sure that there is a small part of the market who would use one just as I would on my boat and realize there is not 30 amps, but, at the same time, allow us to use what is there to recharge our boats,.....and run that AC at night for a good nights rest.....or, keep the blender going while rafted up with others.
That also allows us a "safety net" to use our marine boat systems too.
I have ran a pair of the Honda 2,000 from the Brigner's boat C-Pearl. Awesome....and just like shore power on the go. But, the 2,000 works great for most things, even if you have to turn the hot water on for a great hot shower at the end of the day....followed by the AC to knock out the humidity....so the shower did some good.
But, like the others, I have a bag full of adapters and I will keep them all. Never know what situations may come about when on the waters, particurarly when rafted up with others.
Keep things steady in CA Brother Joe!
Byrdman