60hp on a 19 Angler?

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Bigfish16

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I may have a chance to get a Angler 19 without an engine. I have a great 60 Yamaha that is nearly new. It will push my 17ft bowrider at about 32mph with 4-5 people on board. I'd like to use the sixty for a couple of years if I can get away with it. I know that this is somewhat underpowered, But I'm mostly a fisherman and rarely go much faster than planing speeds anyway. My starcraft is rated for 90hp and the 60hp has been more than enough power for me. I would apreciate any thoughts. Thanks, Bigfish
 
We have a customer with a 19 and a 60 4 stroke Yamaha. They bought the package used, and got a good value on the purchase, but wish very much for more power.
 
I suspect that you mean that you rarely go over displacement speeds, rather than planing speeds. If you put a low pitched prop, you should be able to get the boat up on a plane. It will be "under powered", but there are some 22's with 50 hp out there, and the 60 will be lighter than the larger engine. Give it a try.
 
Bigfish16":215jxvqe said:
I may have a chance to get a Angler 19 without an engine. I have a great 60 Yamaha that is nearly new. It will push my 17ft bowrider at about 32mph with 4-5 people on board. I'd like to use the sixty for a couple of years if I can get away with it. I know that this is somewhat underpowered, But I'm mostly a fisherman and rarely go much faster than planing speeds anyway. My starcraft is rated for 90hp and the 60hp has been more than enough power for me. I would apreciate any thoughts. Thanks, Bigfish
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I had a 75 Yamaha on my 19. It did fine. Put the 60 on with a permatrim and you will be fine. You'll love it wjen you go to the gas pump.
 
I have a Honda 90 on my 19' Angler and it almost feels overpowered. As long as your not heavily loaded, the 60 should do the job.
 
Contrary to those suggesting a 60 on a 19 might be adequate, you'll likely not find anyone who has owned this combination agrees - myself included.

I'm no power hound, and am typically content to plug along at slower speeds. But the combination of a 60 on a 19 is painfully bad...even lightly loaded, you'll be stressing the engine just to get on plane. You'll be running at 5K+ RPM's constantly. Engine life will suffer. Resale will be seriously impacted, as we've discussed this issue many times, and most potential buyers will be well aware the boat is seriously underpowered.

My advice remains the same, every time this comes up...just don't do it. Were I in your shoes, I would sell the 60 (should be pretty easy), and put the money towards an adequate 75-90 outboard.
 
Our 19 Angler has a Honda 90 with a permatrim. Running a stainless 13.25X17 mercury prop & light to moderately loaded the boat turning 4200-4500 rpm scoots along at 22- 24mph on flat water. WOT at 5900 is 32mph. The Permatrim made a significant improvement in throttle setting to hold a plane,and I now only use the trim tabs to balance aside to side load difference. The permatim takes care of all fore aft issues. I think a 60 hp motor with a permatrim would get the job done
 
I have a 1987 60 hp Johnson on a 1987 22 Cruiser. The engine came with the boat and has good compression and is reliable. It gets on plane easily. Goes 18, 19 knots according to the GPS @ 5,000 rpm. I haven't tried pushing the throttle to fully open. And, it's not worth the thousands it will cost to upgrade, which would be to a four stroke 75 hp. Because you already have the engine resale considerations are moot, as they are for me.

We cruised the area between Anacortes and Powell River this summer at 6 to 7 knots most of the time. Went at the higher speeds occasionally.

Stephen
 
bluegene":3u19gb98 said:
I have a 1987 60 hp Johnson on a 1987 22 Cruiser. The engine came with the boat and has good compression and is reliable. It gets on plane easily.
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Doesn't surprise me too much...but I'll suggest it's a bit of an apples/oranges comparison.

My 22 gets up on plane more easily and at lower speeds than than my 19 did. The difference is pretty pronounced; I've had this conversation with others, and that's been their experience as well.

Also - your 22 has the flatter bottom of the older hulls, which gets up on plane more easily and at even lower speed than the newer 22 hulls.

And lastly...the power to weight ratio on your old reliable 2-stroke johnson, is going to be much higher than a modern 4-stroke. You've got a transom weight advantage, further increasing your ability to get on plane over a 19 with a modern, heavier 60HP 4-stroke.

Again...we can discuss theory here all day long. But the short of it is, a handful of us have actual experience with the exact configuration being asked about - and I've yet to see any of us endorse it.
 
I've got Yamaha's 75 on my 19 and it would top out about 27mph when it was lighter. Now loaded to the nuts , two up, coolers, extra fuel cans,traps, rope & floats etc. it tops out at about 21 knots WOT.
The fuel economy is still good but I think I should have gone with the 90hp.

Glen
 
The 87 C-Dory has the new style hull. My 85 has the old style flat bottom with a 87 johnson two stroke. With 300# motor, 65# kicker, 30 gal gas, down riggers and two people I get 24 mph @4000. I ran it wot only one time, got to the high 30's and it scared the crap out of me. Never again.
I like best to run about 3700 which is about 20mph. After all these years she still hum's like a top. C-Otter
 
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