Backup kicker for C-Dory 22 with twin 50hp Yamaha

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KevinDU

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I own a C-Dory 22 with two (2) 50hp Yamahas, but I am thinking of installing a bracket for a 6hp Mercury kicker for the ultimate backup. Does anyone have such a set-up? Which bracket did you use and how, where did you mount it?
 
I've never heard of anyone doing that. I suppose you could if you could find the room. We have twin 40's and consider that we have a 40HP backup whenever we need it. From my perspective the potential for emergency use after both main engines failed would be extremely remote.
 
With our twin Honda 40's, I 2nd Barry's opinion, but if you saw the size of my new anchor you'd think maybe I'd be up for twin 6 hp back ups for the twin mains.

Jay
 
I rigged a small electric motor to mount to our Twins transom on the old boat with a v-lock but that was only because we carried it for the dinghy anyway. I would not have bought one exclusively for that purpose. You already have a kicker buts its a 50. If you want or have a dingy motor that you will carry anyway, I would size it first for the dinghy then consider a method of possibly using it for the big boat if you really had a bad day. You could always side-tie the dingy to the dory and move it around that way in a pinch.

Greg
 
Jay,
Does the front of your boat look like it had an accident in a scrap yard? We just switched to 50' of chain and 25 pound Manson Supreme. It's a real hood ornament.
D.D.
 
Kevin, these boats were designed when light weight 2 strokes were the norm. Your boat is already stern heavy.
You want to install a full time problem to fix a problem that won't occur with basic maintenance and good primary fuel filters.
 
Will-C":20y3vwu1 said:
Jay,
Does the front of your boat look like it had an accident in a scrap yard? We just switched to 50' of chain and 25 pound Manson Supreme. It's a real hood ornament.
D.D.
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Dave, yes I think some may see the similarity. Our new 25 # Manson Boss may just make your Manson Supreme look rather petite. I'm still a little in shock at it's actual size & angles & even more that it fit & works well with present mounting without further adjustment. I wanted anchor overkill & I definitely got it now. The 25# Manson Supreme may have been the better choice of the two, but one think for sure, the Hunkydory is not going to move anymore in a strong wind when anchored in soft mud.

Jay
 
Getting pretty heavy and crowded back there if you do it. Likely never need it. The thing about get home power is you need to run it regularly. There are many people who have kickers and never run them and are startled they dont' run when needed. Saw a guy in FH last year on a Bayliner with twins and twin kickers. Four obs across the back We saw a guy in port Alberni a couple years ago with triples and twin kickers! On a Boston Whaler They may be too scared to actually get out there. So it can be done. But why?
I have personally seen boats with singles and twins and triples come in on a tow line. Poor fuel will kill all 6 of your engines one a a time if you get a load of bad gas. Keep your fuel clean and batteries good and let your factory trained mechanic look after your power. 100 hour service intervals. Two will be enough I bet. I point Kerri On where we want to go and she has a pampered single. MY Yamaha mechanic is a trusted partner in my cruising and he knows it. Good luck. George
 
I have twins and sure would not want to add more weight to the transom. I do carry a small kicker in the cockpit for the dink. In a pinch I would try what Greg suggested.

Martin.
 
Thanks for all the suggestions. I think I'll leave it for now and rely on the twin 50s. I was just thinking what if I lose steering or I hit a log with both engines. I don't think I'll ever have a fuel problem because I have that taken care of. In any case, I wasn't thinking of actually mounting the kicker on the transom. I just want to have a bracket to attach it just in case. I would hate to ask for a tow when I'm 100-200 nm from Kitimat.
 
I have a very similar setup to Amy and Karl but have twin 45s and run a 3.5 tohatsu. I used primarily for slow trolling for king salmon and the dingy. I don't notice any difference with it on or off really, but the 3.5 is very light.
 
Why in the world would you need a kicker with the possible exception of using it to power a dink. You have two of the most reliable engines on the planet.
 
I just finished about 300 hrs and 3 seasons with a CD-22 with Twin 40 Hondas. I never thought of a kicker because I had an extra 40 horse there and ready.
The real consideration was to always have a separate gas container with different gas than in the other 2- 20 gallon tanks , extra hose fittings ready to jerry rig fuel hoses in a pinch and always an extra Racor water separator filter.
 
If I had to have a kicker on that boat (and I don't recommend it) I would use something like the Garelick O.B. Motor Bracket-Offshore #71090. For a 3 to 4 hp I would used the smaller aluminum bracket. You can put this bracket off to the side out of the way of the twin 50's--but it would not be easy to operate, and would add more weight to the stern as others have noted.
 
Hunkydory":2mx6ubbk said:
With our twin Honda 40's, I 2nd Barry's opinion, but if you saw the size of my new anchor you'd think maybe I'd be up for twin 6 hp back ups for the twin mains.

Jay
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That is one mighty piece of tin wear hanging off your bow. I looked at the 25# Manson Boss in my local chandlery. That thing will hold a 50ft power boat in a hurricane. You sure aint gonna be having any sleepless nights on the hook.

Martin.
 
C-jeep":2k93bwxi said:
Why in the world would you need a kicker with the possible exception of using it to power a dink. You have two of the most reliable engines on the planet.
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At first I thought it sounded "a bit much" too, but then he did mention being 100-200 nm from port and also potentially hitting something in the water. I could imagine taking out two lower units of twins, which are often both in the water, and then being able to use a third engine. I guess it's the reverse of someone like me who has one lower unit out of the water (single main plus kicker). I could be fairly certain to have that "fresh" lower unit ready to move me along, but then I don't have the advantage of the second engine already being in the water and running like with a twin. So it seems like it depends on what specifically happens (like if my engine died at a critical moment, I might wish I had that second twin in the water and running already) but I could see his idea of taking out two lower units (which doesn't matter how dependable the engines are) simultaneously on a log or something, especially in some boating areas.
 
The chance of taking out both lower units at once is extremely rare. More likely to get a net tangled in the props or something of that nature--but that can be handled by cutting it off, and by having spare props aboard--which we all should have.

A dinghy motor to put on the bracket makes some sense--and it makes the dinghy motor easier to transfer as an intermediate point from the cockpit.
 
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