best outboard to buy to replace a honda 135????

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Hello
I am looking at the possibility of just replacing my honda 135...The easiest solution would be to buy another honda... but I wonder if there might be a better engine out there in the 135 to 175 hp range...Just looking for other peoples thoughts
thanks
bill
 
Suzuki 175.
 
localboy":308az0l6 said:
Suzuki 175.
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I'm not in the market, but I find it interesting to read/learn about things - especially when they have to do with boating. To that end, what makes you recommend the Suzuki 175? (i.e. what is good or different about it as compared to other, theoretically similar engines?)

Thanks,
Sunbeam
 
why a Suzuki 175?
 
I would stick with honda since it is already rigged. and there pretty solid motors. If you were going to switch I am a fan of yami and have nothing but good things to say about my e-tec.
 
what wrong with the honda?

I would go to a 175 to 200 for your use. You have 4 to 6 people on board. I would much rather run a lager engine at half throttle then a smaller motor at 3/4 to full throttle. I have a 225 honda on my boat and seldom run it past 42oorpm. I recently ran a 25 cd with a 135 and found it lacking in power and response with 3 guys and a lot of shrimp gear on board. Honda make a 250 that is the same weight as my 225.
 
If you want a quiet engine check out the Mercury Verado, nothing comes close.
 
Yamaha has a new inline 4 cylinder 200 hp that is almost as light as a 150hp 489 pounds. It has an alternator rated for 50 amps. In the warmer climates Yamaha has been said to have better corrosion resistance. If you are from the Northwest that's probably not as much of an issue. I would tend to favor what ever respected shop is close to you no matter what brand. Who ever has a good reputation and is close to you for service and parts plus advise. Guys that work on these motors everyday have got to get to know some things that they don't put into the manuals.
D.D.
 
If you are really going to completely re-power, then the e-tech is really a super engine. Powerful, better hole shot, very economical, simple motor, cleaner than most 4 strokes, and there must be a reason that many many government agencies have gone to the e-tech. They are lighter on the transom apples to apple. I have twin Suzies, and they are great reliable, and smooth and quiet, but if I were to re-power after having had Honda, Tohatsu, Suzies, I'd definitely go with e-tech. I have one on my fishing boat and it is wonderful. AND, evinrude dealers are in lots of places...unlike Suzies.
 
Gear ratios can be different between manufacturers

Suzuki can swing a bigger prop due to lower gear ratio (Suzuki 2.08 to 1.75 Yamaha depending on model) for a better bite
 
I will probably stay with Honda...I am hoping to get my 135 going. The mechanics are now thinking that maybe when the lower unit was re-installed the lower bushing somehow got out of aline ( ???????) because even with the boat out of the water when I put it in gear you can hear a banging, thumping sound. Running it at 2000 rpm's the entire transom wanted to bounce off the boat. Like putting your combat boots on spin cycle on steroids...All this started because the clip that holds the tube coming off of the thermostat house broke allowing the tube to rub against the motor at times causing the heat alarm sensor to go off.
I really need a larger motor, I'm usually carry 6 to 7 people on board..... oh well
thanks for the imput
bill
 
You might take it over to Les at EQ for one last diagnosis. He knows Hondas.
 
I hope repair facility is reputable and employ well trained mechanics and others do not conduct business with your previous shops
 
http://www.suzukimarine.com/Product Lines/Outboard Motors/Products/DF175/2012/DF175.aspx

Check out the advantages section in the above link.

We have a 150 and the motor is smaller & lighter than a comparable Honda (135 horse). When it's idling you don't even know it's running; quiet w/ virtually no vibration. I am thoroughly happy w/ it but 25 more horses w/ the same weight etc would be the best of both worlds IMO. Marc at Wefings recommends this motor as the perfect one for a 25 IIRC.
 
Stick with Honda. When we got our new Marinaut, we could have chosen any motor out there. We chose Honda. It's a very high torque, low RPM motor. There are big differences between the Honda 90 and 115, for example, because the latter uses the 150 HP block. Low torque means that the 115 HP and larger honda motors will be very stingy on fuel, a lot easier on your ears and may last longer. With B.L.A.S.T engaged when one puts the pedal to the metal, our boat leaps out of the hole with the 115 HP Honda. Incidentally, the 150 HP Honda probably exceeds 150 HP by approximatly 10 percent. There was a thread on this subject last year.
 
Bill
The only thing I will say is, buy what YOU want. They all have their good and bad points. but in the end you only have you to please. For me with the quality of the motors out there today the biggest factor in deciding would be the availability of parts and service.
 
I do agree to buy what you want. There is little differentiation between the quality of yamaha, suzuki, honda, merc, all good 4 cycle motors. The only motor to stand out from the crowd is the e-tech. So at least, take a ride in an e-tech and visit the evinrude e-tech dealer before you choose among the 4 strokes. If you eliminate the e-tech, then go for what makes you feel good and that for me normally comes down to finding a good local dealer with good service. The e-tech is a next generation motor that is technically advanced. Sometimes it is hard to make that jump out of the mainstream and take a different fork in the road. I'm just happy that there is such a variety of manufacturers all doing well in the motor business. It is like being a kid in a candy store if you have the money to buy what you want.
 
I'm only partial to Suzuki cause we have one. :wink: Well, actually we have two. But I do agree that all manufacturers have pros and cons.
 
Who would you buy a Suzuki outboard from in the Pacific Northwest? What about service? The more I read about different outboards the more it seems all of them have problems and all of them are very expensive and all of them have issues????
 
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