I know , i know, please please please , tell us about some water comming over the bow rocking side to side , bobbin like a cork , bashing through the white caps . I know your out there , if your reading this your not boating & should stsrt pushing some buttons & posting, they should put this site in the c-dory & tug manuals. Oh yea don't forget the 21 tug too . am i gonna have to start posting a reward for good stories when i get my 21 i'm gonna make sure my first pics are the tug in the nastiest stuff i can find , cant believe were the only ones who are craving this kind of info. come on guys i said please :lol: :lol: :roll: ...........john