Cape Cruiser out of business?

carl":31huifpk said:
I wonder what will become of the molds. Those have got to be worth quite a bit.

Carl
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It would be my guess that the disposition of the CC molds would be covered in the settlement, if C-Dory's lawyers are on the ball and the court agreed.

Joe.
 
When I clicked on Joe's link this afternoon, the CC site had this message up:

"Thanks everyone who helped make Cape Cruiser Boats a part of their boating experience. We are sorry to say that Cape Cruiser Boats Works, LLC is no longer in business.

God Bless You All!

For Assistants chilli_st@hotmail.com"

Now, the original CC home page is back.

The plot thickens.

Jim
 
I do not think the folks who bought CC have any hull issues to worry about. My 1984 is solid as a rock....as are the many other hulls the Toland family has built. Not saying a bad one was never built...but, better than putting money in stock.

Will be an interesting Seattle Boat show...
 
I wounder if the CC site was hacked into. Today their site is up and running just like normal. There was no follow up to yesterdays site notice statement ???????
 
I stopped by CC on my way to the airport yesterday. I was told that they were out of business and I watched them load three boats that were going to a dealer in Florida. The only other boat that I saw was a blue 26 in the yard. I didn't look inside the building. I was also told work stopped in the plant on Thursday.

Robbi
 
Having not been around this site as long as many, I am not that familiar with our "family tree". Now, reading all this conflab about dissension in the ranks, shop foreman going to work for the other guy etc. it clears up some of the QC questions I had early on. Especially seeing many of the same quality concerns voiced by others through these threads.
For the sake of brats-to-be I sure hope C-dory does not adopt a "we won" attitude and go back to business as usual. I hope some learning took place and everyone benefits from the process. Mike on Huda Thunkit
 
Well, I think the court docket is for real, as is the visit to the CC factory by Robbi.

They probably just reverted to their previous website content to present a quieter, more stable image while the CC dealers work to dispose of their inventories.

Joe.
 
I think CC got what they deserved....it sounds like they were pretty underhanded and if I owned CD I would sue them too.

All this talk about quality control is crazy.... I think all boats have some issues...and the reason we hear about problems is this forum...I can't believe other manufacturers don't have the same problems....labor is labor...what really sets our boats above it, is the after service we expect and get from the factory....just think what would happen if you owned
another brand of boat....most dealers never want to see you after the sale, much less the factory.... One of the things that make our boats special...Jeff and the factory folks.....no reason to expect any change..
 
Cool Down Brother Joel....and go put on one of those flowerdy shirts...and grin.

Now Mike Shotwell at 3 Rivers Marine Inc looks to be the FL dealership (by Robbi's statement...)... and these are fine boats. Again...the Toland family don't make junk...but, that is just from a SE redneck who loves the C-Dory boats....and their heritage.

Now I love our C-Dory boats, but some things with the MORE COMPLICATED (i.e. read CD25, TC255) plumbing issues of late from the plant are not acceptable for the factory to have put out, any dealership to have to receive, or a person throwing down the bucks for what is now paid for a new boat of this type.... ...to be acceptable. They can fix this too, and they are, will, as they have with everything from C-Dory. They work the issues.

I too did not like the way some folks went back cross town up there. Not sure how that would have been looked at in our family business(s)..but I think sorta like what Joel said above. And...I did think these two boats would have made for great improvements and competition on both...giving us the boat buying public...even better boats to chose from.

Anyone care for a group hug about now... Yep..even you my ol buddy Dusty... :mrgreen:
 
Well Thanks Byrdman for coming to my defense! My earlier statements that seemed to ruffle some were not intended to start one of those long drawn out quality things again. It would be different I'm sure if you owned one of the afore mentioned problem boats, huh, wait a minute I do own one of those! O well like I said I appreciate the mediation effort and by the way I noticed the hometown there in Tenn. and recall a grand vacation summer their in the early 80's. We did the house boat thing for a week on Cumberland and fished small mouth and stripers and generally enjoyed ourselves. Mike on Huda Thunkit :smiled
 
Hi Folks,

Interesting story. There has to be much more info coming.

Just a comment. The C-Dory dealers did not drop the C-Dory lines. The C-Dory dealers that took on Cape Cruisers were dropped by C-Dory. Some of the C-dory dealers were having trouble getting enough 25'CD's when this happened. All of a sudden, many 25'CD's were available.

Will be following this very interesting story. Who needs a warranty on a good product? Nobody gave me a warranty on my 1983 22' Angler when I purchased it a few years ago. The engines are still waranted by the mnufacturers.

Fred
 
Passagemaker magazine had an interesting article about ppl buying used trawlers a few month's ago. Toward the end, they reiterated the advantage of buying used boats in that you escape the inevitable trouble shooting of new boats, new designs, and new systems.

John
 
ffheap":285hvnk2 said:
Who needs a warranty on a good product? Nobody gave me a warranty on my 1983 22' Angler when I purchased it a few years ago. The engines are still waranted by the mnufacturers.

Fred
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I beg to differ, Fred. Used boats have Caveat Emptor warranties, just like the unsold CC's will have. There I agree with you.

New buyers, especially unsophisticated boat buyers demand and need factory warranties. No matter how good the product may be, feces occurs! Ask any of us with boats bought new. Mine needed new fuel tanks - defective manufacture. Gel coat/fiberglass strengthening at the cabin/cockpit gunnel point - hull warranty. Gel crack in the bow area under the mattress, hull warranty, even down to a defective door lock - first year warranty. What would I have paid to get that work done? Given that the cabin/cockpit repair was over $500, I would estimate my factory warranty saved me roughly 5% of the purchase price. Did it affect my personal opinion of C-Dory products? Not in the least, even though I never even got a C-Dory hat out of the deal. It's far and away the most reliable ride I've ever owned.

I wouldn't dream of buying a new C-Dory, CC, Toyota or (especially) a Dodge anything without a good warranty. To be honest, I did look at the Cape Cruiser with an eye to upgrading and there were several "improvements" that impressed me. To think that they might have been developed by folks working at C-Dory and then implemented in their own product by those same folk after leaving C-Dory makes me nauseous. The only thing worse might be selling their improved designs to Brunswick....

Don
 
Anna Leigh":1tlak0aj said:
Hey Don, PM me your address and I will send you a hat. I've got several extras.
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Wow thanks. I never quite believed what my nephew always said about you. :xlol Guess he was right.

I owe you one.

Don
 
Friday the 15th was the last time I was on this site and there were 250 posts since then. I am still without power from our little storm.

I was most interested in this thread because one of the ex-CC people and one of the Tolands is going to help me add 24 inches to my boat after Christmas. They will do the fiberglass work and I will do most of the other work.

Pat will not have the last 18’ C-Dory built by the Tolands anymore.
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