Garhauer marine Hardware Lifting Davit

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I was just browsing :P http://garhauermarine.com/catalog_process.cfm?cid=41 and was wondering if any of you Brats had any experience with this particular lifing davit? If so, any pictures on mounting on a 22 Cruiser? Seems to be the most reasonably priced lifting davit around; pretty light and portable.

John
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John-

Bob Austin (Thataway) has used this extensively on sail and powerboats and has recently installed one on his new TC 255. I don't remember if he had one on his CD-22 Cruiser, but he can fill you in expertly on this lift, which I know he highly recommends.

Joe.
 
John, We used one for a few years on our SeaRay :oops:. It works well lifting a 115 lb. outboard. The quality is excellent. I still have it and may install it on the TC.
 
The pictures I have seen are not very informative about how one mounts the davit. The Garhauer website photo is a joke. There is a photo of it in use on Thataway but it is not a closeup. Does it come with a couple of brackets? Are additional brackets available for multiple mounting points? What kind of installation (reinforcement, etc.) is required for the brackets? Can anyone answer these questions?

Thanks,
Warren
 
Yes, I used the davit on the CD 22. We both have back problems and this davit helped us to avoid heavy lifting.

The davit is a SS tube in two pieces (I suspect that it could be made with three sections. The SS tube is about 2" in diameter. There is a Derilon ball which has a plastic and SS base. This can either be screwed/4200/5200 into the floor of the cockipt. The upper support is an anodized aluminm peice which the 2" SS tube fits into. This is made to mount on a railing--the davit was designed for sailboats, thus the idea of using it on a railing. We have used the half of this piece which clamps around a rail bolted thru a fiberglass combing. Right now we have it mounted on the port side, inboard, so we can pick up the generator, and fuel tank and place them on the swim step. We can also pick up the dinghy as we roll it up and bring it aboard. We will be putting a second mount on the stb side by the entrance, to bring coolers and other heavy objects from the side aboard--this will also help to handle the dinghy motor.

We are going to have a bracket fabricated out of SS to support the ball which the bottom rests on, and will stand out from the cabin aft bulkhead enough that the davit will be straight, when the upper support is thru bolted thru the lip of the cabin top.

We feel that the bottom can be screwed with #12 or #14 screws, and no reinforcment is necessary on the C Dory hull bottom or deck. The sealant must be good I tend to put the screw in, pull it out, then coat the inside with epoxy, and after it has dried, put the screw back in with the sealant.

The reason I like this davit is that the SS work is excellent, it is much more sturdy than competative davits. Most impressive is the construction of the pulleys for the line and the design of the jam cleat.

I will be happy to take specific photos if anyone wishes. The davit stows in the side pocket of the TC 255. I have it on the stb side, along with a collapsable boat hook. The port side has a boat hook, brush, gaff combo also in clamps.

Hope that helps.
 
Thanks for the info Bob. If it is not too much trouble, some detail photos would be quite helpful and informative.

John
Swee Pea
 
I 9 photos on the davit (#91 thru #98) in the last two pages of the
"Thataway" album. Sorry that a couple got out of order. This pretty well explains how the davit is mounted on the cockpit sole and the top is mounted to the cockpit combing. I made a fairing block for the top support to allow the door to open and keep the davit vertical when the boat was floating on its lines. The bottom is screwed in place with #14 screws and 5200. The upper mount is with 1/4" bolts.

Hope this helps.

Bob Austin
 
Bob, thanks for the pointer to the other photos -- I missed those before. Very clear now.

Question: I have been thinking of installing a LifeSling on the side of my rocket launcher. This would be the one with the 5:1 tackle. I know that you are very interested in MOB procedures, etc., yet I have not seen you mention the LifeSling, although it is found on many boats. Is there a reason why you have not installed the LifeSling on Thataway?

Thanks,
Warren
 
My appologies to Lori Ann in not answering the question about the life sling.

Yes, I really believe in the life sling. We have had one on every boat, with a couple exceptions for the last 25+ years. I even got to meet the inventor in the San Blas islands of Panama. He is a Admirality attorney and really quite a guy!

I have used the Garhauer davit as a lifting system for the Life Sling and it works very well. One of the objects is to be sure and get the person out of the water and actually into the boat. With the C Dory, this means that you have to get them over the transom or cockpit side.

One thing to remember is that once a person goes overboard they may not be able to climb back aboard. There may be an injury to a limb, or there may be a concussion, even a primary medical problem, such as cardiac disease. Many people die each year of hypothermia, even though they get "attatched" to the boat. You have to get the flotation device to the person and then get the person in the collar and aboard. With the Garhauer davit mounted in the cockpit, it is difficult to get enough reach to bring a person over the side. I believe that the side of the arch would be a good attatchment point for the lifesling lifting tackle. 5:1 or 6:1 is the minimum tackle for adequate lifting.

We will probably get a life sling for the Alaskian trip, as well as make the bracket for mounting the Garhauer davit high so it can be used to bring the dinghy up on the top (may be rolled up--or to get the bow all of the way up and hold it until we can pivot it around and secure it). I am considering a slide in bracket for the bottom ball of the lower section that the Garhauer davit fits into, as used to lift to the cabin top or bring a person over the side, so it is not in the way when we board.
 
thataway":r3p5s40n said:
I am considering a slide in bracket for the bottom ball of the lifesling, so it is not in the way when we board.
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Did you mean to say the bottom ball of the Garhauer Davit? I was not aware that the LifeSling has a bottom ball also.

Warren
 
Warren, Thanks--I will correct that to Garhauer Davit support.
Bob
 
Bob, in looking at your photos of the Garhauer Davit in use, I am wondering why you installed it closer to the center of the cockpit instead of in the corner? Seems to me you would want it to pivot out over the gunwales. Did you have another use or technique in mind?

Also, I am also wondering what good it will do to have the ball on a slide-in bracket when you will still have to provide a mounting location for the sleeve through which the stanchion fits (with the ball at its base.)

I will be very interested in seeing what you come up with in the way of a demountable support for the ball, both in the cockpit and on the cabin side.

Thanks,
Warren
 
Warren,
The principle use of the davit is to lift the Honda Generator from its Action packer box over the seat and transom and deposit it on the outboard bracket. Next the 6 gallon fuel tank is lifted over and deposited. The seconday use is to pull the dinghy aboard (it fits between the outboards), and deflate and roll up as it comes aboard then lift into the cockpit and deposit on top of the action packer. then lift with the davit. Keep in mind that with our bad backs this is necessary.

The mount on the stb side will be just aft of the entrance to the cockpit in the foreward side curtain. This will be to hoist a ice ches, honda, fuel etc into the boat from our dock. This would be the primary point I would use for lifting a MOB, unless we do the mount of the top of the cabin. The cabin top upper ring mount will be with wing nut/threaded rod, or a short 1/4" bolt tightened from under the lip--so it will be a short bolt (Probably will be the latter). The ring will not necessarilly be in place all of the time.
The biggest issue is where the lower or ball mount will go--because of the window. The aft cabin bulkhead is balsa cored, so I can use #14 flat head screws with 5022 to mount the flat plate (with "U" turned lips on the sides ) which will hold the bottom ball mount. I have fishing rod holders which fit into similar fittings. AFI 554014--bottom left pg 166 2006 West Marine catalogue. The SS brace will be of 1/8" or perhaps larger, sliding into this fitting, with a 45 deg plate brace to the outer lip--which has to come out about 4" from the cabin bulkhead. The SS will be an inverted L.

It would be easy to put one of these plates on each side, outboard of the window. (I have to check the width) The other possiblity is to bolt/screw/5200 a thicker plate which is threaded for 1/4" bolts for the bracket to screw into. (similar concept used for storm windows on passagemakers)

Bob Austin
 
I finally got around to mounting my Garhauer Davit on my CD22. I looked at Dr. Bob's install on his 25 and adapted. Since I have factory floorboards, I could not bolt the Garhauer floor mount directly to the deck. So I used a stainless backing plate and attached (welded) stainless tee nuts. I then drilled the floorboards and mounted the floor mount. It is easily removable by simply unscrewing, leaving four holes in the floorboard. I mounted the "wall" (rail) mount using the supplied hardware. I used half of the rail mount as a backing plate. Worked great. I installed two mounts, one starboard and one port. I posted photos in the Swee Pea album.

Thanks to Dr. Bob for all his communication. It was an easy install, but I have to think hard and long before I drill a hole.

John
Swee Pea
 
John-

Nice, clean, well thought out installation!

Joe.
 
Hi John,

Nice job!

I am thinking of doing the same thing. Where did you buy the davit?

What is the davit rated for? Since the floorboards are not attached to the boat would the max lift be able to start lifting the far corner of the floorboard? If I get one I will probably do the same install.

Steve
 
I purchased the Davit and extra mounting hardware at www.foreandaftmarine.com They had the best price. I believe that the davit is rated for 150 pounds. There should be no problem with the lifting of the floorboards. The floor mount keeps the bottom of the davit pipe from kicking out. Weight should be down on top of the floorboard and against the mount. Even if you mounted directly to the floor, you only use wood screws. It has to do with shere (sp?) weight or something like that.

Good luck with your install.

John
Swee Pea
 
I have pruchased my davits directly from Guerhauer (actually been to the factory--had to wait a little while they finished up the parts.)

I have heard 150 and 200 lbs. It handles 125 lbs easily.
 
When I went to the Garhauer site I was not able to find extra mounting hardware kits, but apparently they are available. Would appreciate more info on where to get them.

Thanks,
Warren
 
I called Garhauer first and they do sell extra mounting kits. But their price is more than Fore and Aft Marine. When (if) you decide to buy with Fore and Aft Marine, tell them what you want and they will quote you a better price than buying directly from Garhauer. In fact, Fore and Aft Marine had the unit drop shipped from Garhauer.

Also, there are two versions of the Davit. The davit arm can be purchased in two different lengths, 26" or 34". I went with the 34" arm.

If you go to EBAy http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-STAI ... enameZWD1V you will see a better picture of the davit and the mounting parts. What you want is an extra support collar and mounting foot with backing plate.

I know I have a receipt somewhere and will share that info with you if/when I find it. But I paid somewhere in the neighborhood of $50-$75 less from Fore and Aft Marine.

Hope this helps and good luck.

John
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