jkidd
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Looks like Garmin has stepped it up again. This is impressive.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GnUoQcBOwtQ
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GnUoQcBOwtQ
Garmin Panoptix livescope forward and down
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jkidd
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With the PS21 transducer 300 feet forward and 300 feet down. With the Livescope transducer 200 feet forward and 200 feet down. The maximum recommend speed is 9 MPH but they claim if your going faster there wouldn't be enough reaction time to do something. This would be a great device at Lake Powell when there is a little chop on the water and you can't see. There have been times where the water level was just right and there was all kinds of stickups just under the surface just waiting for the outdrive to smack the bottom. The PS21 transducer is $750 but is older technology.
Last winter, I watched a video of a Dashew Yacht going slowly to the head of a uncharted Greenland Fjord to anchor. It was most likely using the older PS 21 transducer as they indicated a 300 foot forward range. The video showing the forward looking sonar in action was extremely impressive & I would love to have the even more improved version on the Hunkydory. If it had been available when we first started our explorations, I would have purchased it & even now very tempting. Maybe not so great for fishing, but for exploring poorly or non charted waters a technical wonder.
Jody, thanks for posting.
Jay
Jody, thanks for posting.
Jay
gulfcoast john
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Jay,
Thanks for your post.
Without it, I could not have imagined why anyone could need or want this technology, which is by all accounts in its primitive stage.
We all respect your vast experience, thanks again!
John
Thanks for your post.
Without it, I could not have imagined why anyone could need or want this technology, which is by all accounts in its primitive stage.
We all respect your vast experience, thanks again!
John
jkidd
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My thoughts are to build a mount for the stearn that would allow me to retract it when moving at speed and motorize it so I can steer it from the helm. I wonder if Garmin will beat me to this. I also thought about mounting it to the bottom of a trim tab. While this would be great for fishing I think I would like it more for avoiding under water hazards.
gulfcoast john":2fe3oaxb said:
John, thanks for the compliments, but when looking up the Dashew video involving the forward looking sonar use, I found my memory of last winter viewing it somewhat faulty. It was in Canada not Greenland & the head of the Bay was charted. The video does show the forward looking sonar in action & it’s a Simrad forward looking sonar with 200 to 250 feet forward look with clarity not close to the new Garmin, but does show how it can be used. I did watch all the Dashew videos & read all their information on past cruises & capabilities last winter & there are many, so not to surprising the lack of accuracy of my memory & thought corrections warranted. Here is link to video.
http://nixflet.site/fpb-78-1-cochise-us ... QOIQ4.html
Jay
colbysmith
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Cool!
That just looks so great. I talked to the guys at Rodger's Marine about doing something like that. They discouraged me from doing it with the Raymarine RV-100 Chirp and down vision 3D.
I can see so much use for that, Like Jody said --> Lake Powell, and tons of really great anchorages where there is 5 feet of water at low tide.
Harvey
SleepyC :moon
I can see so much use for that, Like Jody said --> Lake Powell, and tons of really great anchorages where there is 5 feet of water at low tide.
Harvey
SleepyC :moon
Well, #1, It would have taken custom fabrication, which they could do, but it would have taken more time and they had me on a 3 day time slot.
#2. The picture on the screen would not rotate 90 degrees, it would, they said, just present a narrow line, not the wide side scan that I was looking for.
#3. They were concerned that the side presentation of the RV-100 transducer would put too much stress on the the transom attachment and on the transducer itself. Even after assuring them that it would only be deployed transversely at 0-2 or 3 knots. (It is quite long and not so narrow, but the mount is not nearly as robust as the P-66 that was there originally.)
I did send them the link to this thread so they could see the pix, but that came about after I had already set up my schedule and I was already there. Didn't really want to turn around and bring the boat home then back again for it to be later.
For now, the 3D view and the side scan views will work pretty well, but for some spots, I will turn the boat 90 or back into an area if I have to. Many places I anchor I can see the bottom (5-10 foot depths) so the sonar won't be that much of an advantage. Where I can't see, it will be a big plus.
Harvey
SleepyC :moon
#2. The picture on the screen would not rotate 90 degrees, it would, they said, just present a narrow line, not the wide side scan that I was looking for.
#3. They were concerned that the side presentation of the RV-100 transducer would put too much stress on the the transom attachment and on the transducer itself. Even after assuring them that it would only be deployed transversely at 0-2 or 3 knots. (It is quite long and not so narrow, but the mount is not nearly as robust as the P-66 that was there originally.)
I did send them the link to this thread so they could see the pix, but that came about after I had already set up my schedule and I was already there. Didn't really want to turn around and bring the boat home then back again for it to be later.
For now, the 3D view and the side scan views will work pretty well, but for some spots, I will turn the boat 90 or back into an area if I have to. Many places I anchor I can see the bottom (5-10 foot depths) so the sonar won't be that much of an advantage. Where I can't see, it will be a big plus.
Harvey
SleepyC :moon
jkidd
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hardee":tq6wky3y said:Well, #1, It would have taken custom fabrication, which they could do, but it would have taken more time and they had me on a 3 day time slot.
#2. The picture on the screen would not rotate 90 degrees, it would, they said, just present a narrow line, not the wide side scan that I was looking for.
#3. They were concerned that the side presentation of the RV-100 transducer would put too much stress on the the transom attachment and on the transducer itself. Even after assuring them that it would only be deployed transversely at 0-2 or 3 knots. (It is quite long and not so narrow, but the mount is not nearly as robust as the P-66 that was there originally.)
I did send them the link to this thread so they could see the pix, but that came about after I had already set up my schedule and I was already there. Didn't really want to turn around and bring the boat home then back again for it to be later.
For now, the 3D view and the side scan views will work pretty well, but for some spots, I will turn the boat 90 or back into an area if I have to. Many places I anchor I can see the bottom (5-10 foot depths) so the sonar won't be that much of an advantage. Where I can't see, it will be a big plus.
Harvey
SleepyC :moon
Harvey
Turn on the side view and put one motor in forward and one in reverse and rotate the boat on itself. That should give you a 360 degree view of everything around you.