Honda BF150 Electronic Monitoring Options

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Mike...

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Hello everyone.

I have Honda BF150 outboards on the TomCat, and I am wondering what my electronic monitoring options are. Currently I have gauges for RPM and trim, but no fuel flow monitoring. I'd like to get as much data as I can on an electronic display, something like Bad Boy has here with the Mercury Vessel View Display.

Does Honda have something like this? Or can I use NMEA0183 or N2K (preferred) sensors to accomplish the same thing with one of the many electronic displays out there?
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mike
 
It looks like only very few of the Honda engines are NMEA 2000 compatible, and the 150 isn't one of them.

http://marine.honda.com/pdf/accessories ... 00_PGN.pdf

They do have a digital fuel flow / speedo gauges that will work with 2005 and newer 150's, but it look slike you need one per engine.

There isn't going to be a gauge like the Mercury Smartcraft for Honda. Maretron is probably the biggest manufacturer for NMEA 2000 equipment, sensors and the like, and I don't see anything of their's for Honda.

www.maratron.com
 
Mike, one of your photos shows a big Raymarine Display, an E120 perhaps? Read your book, I think one of those pages can be set up to display engine stuff, not sure what the interface is though. Do a little research...

Charlie
 
I don't think you can get engine data from the Hondas to a NMEA 2000 bus (and to the raymarine display). Searching Maratron's knowledge base page brings up no hits for "Honda"- although their search engine isn't any better than the one on the C-Brat site (no offense intended). :D
 
Mike,

If you have electronic Tachs and Speedo, you will have fuel flow, mileage, trip and fuel used readouts on the speedo head. The tachs show the state of trim and RPM. As I recall, they were about an $800 option in 2006.
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Roger these are his tachs from his album. Looks like the wrong ones.

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Can he replace them with the electronic ones? Not sure if all the wiring is there or not.

Charlie
 
Charlie, Mike,

The Honda harnesses seem to be set up for any possibility. The manuals for the electronic gauges outline the electrical hook up combining the info from both engines for the total fuel flow. The mileage readout is not very good since it uses the pitot pressure port on the engine. Easy to do the math though when you're using 11 gallons per hour and running 22 kts per the GPS. :shock:
 
Matt Gurnsey":2ed3qf1g said:
It looks like only very few of the Honda engines are NMEA 2000 compatible, and the 150 isn't one of them.

http://marine.honda.com/pdf/accessories ... 00_PGN.pdf

They do have a digital fuel flow / speedo gauges that will work with 2005 and newer 150's, but it look slike you need one per engine.
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Matt, it looks like you are right. Looks like my only option is the Honda Electronic gauges. I'll look into those. Thanks.
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mike
 
Captains Cat":3slqbpfy said:
Mike, one of your photos shows a big Raymarine Display, an E120 perhaps? Read your book, I think one of those pages can be set up to display engine stuff, not sure what the interface is though. Do a little research...
Charlie
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Hi Charlie.

That's a barely used c-70 (maybe 20 hours on it), and I'm pulling it soon.
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mike
 
Dreamer":11c4kp28 said:
Charlie, Mike,
The Honda harnesses seem to be set up for any possibility. The manuals for the electronic gauges outline the electrical hook up combining the info from both engines for the total fuel flow.
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I am hoping all the wiring is already there. It would make sense to use the same harnesses for all installs.
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mike
 
Ok, I found the Honda electronic gauges (06373-ZY3-800 and 06375-ZY3-800), but they are definitely ugly and expensive. And as Matt pointed out, I'll need 2 of each. Yuck!

The only positive thing here (besides getting fuel flow) is that I'll recover some of the space on my helm by consolidating gauges.

There really are no other options to these gauges?
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mike
 
Dreamer":1rn4ibrv said:
Mike,
You'll need only one speedo and two tachs. Still expensive! :?
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True, but since it is a multifunction meter, I think it makes sense to have two. I am hoping to eliminate all the analog meters I have now. Maybe that is not practical?
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mike
 
Kind of in line with this thread............

I have a 2002 200hp Honda.
There is a gauge on the dash that is a Honda pressure gauge to 50 psi. When at cruise, 4000 rpm's, it is pegged out over 50 psi.

What is the gauge monitoring??? Pressure of what???
 
We have the Honda gauges (2 tach's + 1 speedo) on our BF135's.
Comments after 3 years of use:-

They are damned difficult to read on a bright sunny day when you are wearing sunglasses or even when you look inside after looking at sunlit water. (Unless you turn on the Nav lights and backlight them)

Fuel consumption is accurate as it comes from the computer chip that controls the injection and you can have each engine or total.

Speed is fine when it is working but is easily deranged by bits of weed etc. Since it is indicating water speed, the MPG calculation does not have a lot to do with economy. As Roger said, it's more useful to take SOG off the GPS and do the simple math with the GPH figures.

Engine trim is OK but is not particulalrly accurate. Our engines are visibly out of sync when showing the same number of "bars" on the tacho's. Maybe one day I will find the adjustment. For now it's easier to look out the back window.

Not one of Honda's finest ideas.

Merv
 
Grumpy":35urc4qr said:
They are damned difficult to read on a bright sunny day when you are wearing sunglasses or even when you look inside after looking at sunlit water. (Unless you turn on the Nav lights and backlight them)
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Hello Merv.
One of my concerns is how readable the gauges are.

Are you saying that when the backlight in on, is it bright enough to view in sunglasses on a bright day?
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mike
 
Regarding the Flowscan, it looks neat, and I much prefer it over the Honda Meters. Especially nice is that one meter can handle the tach for both outboards, including hours and fuel level/flow for each (actually I think it gives you combined flow). I am looking for more space on the helm and one meter doing the work of two is attractive.

But here is what I lose from the unattractive Honda meters:

Speed:
• Battery voltage
• Water in fuel alarm

Tach:
• Trim
• Oil pressure alert
• Overheat alert
• ACG warning
• PGM-FI (check engine) warning

But these warnings and alerts can only be gotten from the Honda meters, and they seem highly useful.
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mike
 
Jack,

My pressure gauges are for water pressure in each engine. The max I see is about 15 PSI. The 200 must have a macho water pump!
 
Mike,

I can't say for sure but it is a lot better with the backlighting on. Mine is wired to the Nav lights so I'm not in the habit of doing it. I suppose they could easily be wired to be on all the time.

True about the other warnings. They are useful.

Personally I would like the analog tachs and put up with the other gauge.

Merv
 
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