Honda's new Generator
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T.R. Bauer
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I'm in love!
colbysmith
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Weight?
T.R. Bauer
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colbysmith":22t58ywr said:
Who cares....get your grandkids to lift it.....It's 3200 watts....enough for an X-Box
One review I found said 58.4 lbs - so a little more than the 2000/2200.colbysmith":gqjv1uza said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh9Cw3myz-w
That is slick! Anyone found an estimate of the price?
Also, what does 3.2 kva provide in watts for comparison to the older models at 2200 watts (or my older yet EU2000). The kva to kw calculators I found ask for a power factor. It's late so I am asking the smart people rather than research it further.
Thanks for the post about the new generator and thanks to the smart people who are not going to let me down!
Also, what does 3.2 kva provide in watts for comparison to the older models at 2200 watts (or my older yet EU2000). The kva to kw calculators I found ask for a power factor. It's late so I am asking the smart people rather than research it further.
Thanks for the post about the new generator and thanks to the smart people who are not going to let me down!
PaulNBriannaLynn
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jkidd":b4g1ww2q said:
Is the plain old Honda 2000 not fillable while running? I know I have during power outages but maybe I shouldn't have?
I may have to put my old Honda on FB marketplace and get one of these new ones
T.R. Bauer
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I'm pretty sure I wouldn't refill any of them while running.
Robert H. Wilkinson
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T.R. Bauer":1zeamts7 said:
DEFINITELY NOT. I was surprised to see that in print on the one website, although don't remember if it was an official Honda website. Pouring gas from a plastic container is dangerous on so many levels - from static sparks to fume accumulation. A running engine which may not be ignition protected poses a further risk of spark ignition of fumes. A HOT engine raises the risk of fume ignition. Pouring gas from a plastic ungrounded container into a hot running engine on a boat is a disaster waiting to happen.
About 10 years ago a close friend of mine was severely burned in a flash fire while refuelling his lawn mower. He owns a marina and the wooden boat pictured in my album. Around the same time there was a class action lawsuit involving fires and gas cans.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/wal- ... 2D11714192
The generator does look interesting although I doubt it will be cheap. I always found Honda's easy to start but the FI may help with fuel economy.
I suspect it will need a small battery or some type of condensor type coil to store some power for the FI on startup. Will also use some of the power it generates while running.
Will be interesting to see one when they arrive here.
Regards,
Rob
smckean (Tosca)
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IMHO, this KVA designation is just a marketing ploy.Tyboo":2ivk35bm said:
KVA just means volts times amps divided by 1000. Watts is also volts times amps. So mathematically 1 KVA = 1000 watts. However, the electric industry uses KVA and watts in a special way. All systems are subject to inefficiencies; so they use something they call the "power factor" to indicate that not all the power of a system is useable. In the industry they use KVA to mean power in a perfect world, and watts to mean the power available in the real world......even though scientifically 1 KVA = 1000 watts.
I don't know what the power factor is for Honda generators, I'll guess 0.8. In that case a 3.2 KVA generator would produce 2560 watts (compared to 2000 and 2200 watts for their older models). 3.2 KVA sounds like maybe 3200 watts......so....good for marketing.
P.S. I suspect the "fill while running" refers to the silly little "catch rim" around the fill cap and the tiny "spillway" that presumably allows spilled gas to not pour over the outlets (see OP's photo). Another marketing ploy as far as I'm concerned. I ain't filling any generator on a boat while it's running!!
"Also refillable while running." over my flaming dead body. Also good to see Jkidd's post on continuous vs peak. Generator ads always shout out the peak (with no mention of peak) where most people will think that number is the output that will run a devise with that wattage, in other words a continuous wattage which is always less than the peak.
Jay
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jkidd
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thataway":3qycbw8q said:
If this is a closed fuel system then that might not work because the caps are not vented. If it is like cars these days they have non vented caps and if you forget to put the cap on and drive off you will get a engine code light. They were doing that to meet emission requirements. The blue tooth will be able to send a text message to the EPA. (Not really).
jkidd":143pfbjb said:
Modern gas systems are vented, but only let air in and then only enough to replace the volume of fuel removed. At least that is the idea. That keeps unburned fuel from venting into the atmosphere as it heats and forms a vapor pressure trying to push it out. Ever notice how in the sun modern plastic gas cans can bulge? If they were vented out they wouldn't. The caps, particularly cheap ones, sometimes stick and that can cause a problem with too much vacuum forming inside the gas tank as fuel is removed by the engine running. Older style venting just had a sealing valve that you open and venting can go both ways. Gas cap systems to replace fuel from outside tanks are likely to work fine with the new generators. I have heard that they work fine on the new fuel-injected Honda 7000, which is available, and I have been looking at for my house system. If my 20+-year-old Honda generator that I currently use would just die!!!, but they don't seem to very often. I just replaced my 2002 Honda 90 outboard with a new Honda 100. Boy is it nice. I heard the old one is going to Mexico, where it probably will work for another 20 years.