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moabarch

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So - we've pretty much decided to look for a 25' Cruiser (after looking at boats at Lake Powell earlier this week - thanks to to all the folks who showed off their boats to us!) Now comes the job of comparing the prices of the used boats out there and decidding what might be the best boat for the best price. Can anyone give me ball park figures on what it costs to install the following on boats without these items?
1) High radar arch
2) full cockpit canvas
3) trim tabs
4) hydraulic steering

Most other items I can figure out myself.

Thanks all.
 
moabarch":8dzh5pto said:
So - we've pretty much decided to look for a 25' Cruiser (after looking at boats at Lake Powell earlier this week - thanks to to all the folks who showed off their boats to us!) Now comes the job of comparing the prices of the used boats out there and decidding what might be the best boat for the best price. Can anyone give me ball park figures on what it costs to install the following on boats without these items?
1) High radar arch
2) full cockpit canvas
3) trim tabs
4) hydraulic steering

Most other items I can figure out myself.

Thanks all.
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Hi Tom and Nancy,

I will answer what I can, based on a CD22.

1) High radar arch - I believe that I paid 8-900 for mine. Self installed
2) Full cockpit canvas was between $1600 and $1700.

I believe that trim tabs and hydraulic steering are standard on a CD 25.

Steve
 
I believe that all of the newer model C Dory 25's have hyraulic steering. The older boats are slightly different layout, and I personally prefer the newer boats.

The newer boats also have trim tabs.

The "official" camper Canvas cost me about $1995, plus $335 shipping 15 months ago--both will be more currently. I was not happy with this canvas, but I have higher standards than some. The vinly was a low quality and the canvas did not as well as it should, plus the finishing was not up to standards. Also the frame was only two bows, this does not allow for opening the foreward part in hot weather--and getting good air flow. A 3 for 4 bow model will allow this. I would suggest getting canvas locally. See some of the features in "Thataway" album.

I don't have a radar arch--and can carry a dinghy behind the radar which is mounted about a foot above the cabin top. The only reason I would see for the SS arch is if you want the "rocket launchers"--for fishing poles--but with Camper Canvas, they are hard to access.

There are many fewer of the 25 cruisers (older models) available. The 25 a a great boat, but does require a larger tow vehicle than the 22.

I am sorry that we could not make Powell this year and meet you in person!
 
Hi Tom and Nancy,

The only thing I'd add to Steve's list has to do with the camperback - we ordered ours with screens and eisenglass windows that zip open; that added another $5-600 to the price IIRC. For warm weather cruising, the screens are a real plus. At the time, King Canvas was doing C-Dory's canvas work; we have been very pleased with ours. It really expands your livable space. I don't know if the canvas is a factory option any more; haven't seen a price list from C-Dory since the change of ownership. Many local dealers have canvas people who do work for them and could recommend or order it for you.

We sure enjoy our 25 - it has been the right combination of space and features for the way we cruise. How do you see yourself using your boat? Specific travel plans? Cruising water you want to visit? Fishing?

There are more CD-25s for sale on the list here than I've ever seen before - could be a good time to get a well-equipped boat. Good luck with your search.

Best wishes,
Jim B.
 
My 2007 25' Cruiser came std w/ hydraulic steering & Bennett Trim tabs. If you're going to do any appreciable towing ensure you have a capable vehicle e.g. suggest a tow vehicle which weighs more than the object(s) your're towing (roughly). My F250 diesel w/ single axle weighs 6,000+ lbs. The 25' Cruiser weighs 3600 lbs empty, trailer 1700 lbs, 100 gals fuel = 750 lbs, equipment in boat ~400 lbs (~6500 lbs behind the truck). I have ~400 lbs cargo in F250 bed box. Total weight ~ 13,000 lbs. Only because I've driven dual axle trucks would I suggest dualies are definitely the best choice - the sway is best acommodated by the dualies more than any other factor. With that said, if you want to be safe, don't drive around in a Jeep Cherokee hauling a 25' Cruiser - it will be pushing you.

Cheers!
Norm
 
Norm, Have you weighed your C Dory at the scales? Most boats weigh more than the "factory weight". Mine was 5500 on the scale with no fuel, no water and nothing inside (no cushions etc). My trailer is 1200 lbs (Aluminum), So the boat and motor came in at 4300 lbs--and the motor 450 lbs, so the boat weight was closer to 3850. Not a lot of difference, but items add up, and when loaded to travel the boat was 6500 lbs on the trailer, plus 700 lbs tongue weight, or 7200 lbs., and that was with 1/4 fuel and water or down about 500 lbs from full. Some folks say that their boats weigh upward of 7500 lbs on the trailer/for the road.

I have had not problem with sway with a Ford Excursion (7.3 power stroke), but found that the trailer balanced better with a weight distribution equalizer hitch. This includes cross country plus North and South--about 7,000 miles of towing so far. There are some who have much more experience.

There are those who have said that duals have less traction because of less weight per tire--I don't know if this is correct or not. I have also towed and launched the C D25 with a dual rear wheel RV, where the load on the rear axle was fairly high and have had no problems.

My comment about the "older" C Dory 25's refered to the "Cruise Ships--made in the mid 90's.
 
Haven't had the chance to hit a scale yet. Mine are just rough numbers, and I should have counted 6#/gal for fuel (rather than 7.5#/gal [which is H20]), and I forgot about my Suzuikis hanging off the transom - what, maybe 125lbs for the 9.9hp, & 500lbs for the 150hp? So, add another 500lbs (make it a "push" on the difference between the fuel/water correction of ~100lbs) - which brings it up to ~7,000lbs - give or take a couple pounds for old bottles of Old Yeller laying in the bottom of the hull. :)
 
Thanks all - we have a one ton dually Duramax (2007) and we are used to hauling loads up around 11,000 lbs. While a 22 would certainly be easier, I guess we'll just take our time and get places when we get there. Since we live in Moab, Lake Powell will be a common destination. Flaming Gorge and Yellowstone Lake are also pretty reasonable distances. However, our ultimate goal is the Pacific Northwest and up to Alaska - where we lived for 20 years. I can't think of anything better than a summer on Prince William Sound.

Anyway, regarding the costs of the items I asked about - thanks for the information. Those are prices I thought were in the ballpark. And I feel pretty stupid not realizing the trim tabs are standard - one guy I just talked to today who is selling a 25 told me the boat did not have trim tabs........so it didn't think they were standard. I'll have to ask him again about that!

As for the canvas, while at Lake Powell we met Roger (flrockytop) and saw his cockpit cover - absolutely great. If you haven't seen his photos of it, take a look under his "C-Lover" album.

Everyone we met at Lake Powell was great - we even got a couple rides. We basically hung out at the boat ramp, waiting (stalking, my wife said) for C-dory's to show up. When one did, we pounced...barely giving the poor folks time to set their parking brake. As you might expect, I think everyone liked showing off their boats and what they had done with them.

Now it's our turn.

thanks, all.
 
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