How much weight can a 22 carry

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Hi there

I have a 2008 22 cruiser with twin yamaha 40's. so far I love the boat but this year will be the first time using on the ocean for a fishing trip. I'm wondering if I will have any worry with 3 people, full fuel and 400lbs in gear, we will be running inlets from bella coola to shearwater so its around 70miles. In the past I have had deep V boats that would have trouble getting on plane if I had to much weight in them. Im hoping this wont be a problem with the dory hull design maybe it will ride smooth with all the weight. So what have you pack in your c dory?? And what kind of cruzing speed could you get.

Thanks
 
I do not fish, so hence no fishing gear. I have twin Yamaha 40s. With a heavy laden boat, plus full fuel tanks and three adults, I'm sure I was up on plane before 12/13 mph.

Martin.
 
Jordon
Our boat is the Angler model with a 90 HP so a different configuration but I doubt weight will ever be your problem.
Proper balancing of these boat is important
Water conditions will affect what you do more than anything else.
Most of our trips are with three men and all the fishing gear and we leave with full fuel most of the time. Getting on plane with these boats will never be an issue for you. Choppy water will get your attention if you are in a hurry.
Trimming down your engine and use of your trim tabs will help with both issues
I will be curious to hear about your trip to Bella Coola and Shearwater.
We have been fishing north of Prince Rupert mostly but I have always been intrigued by the central coast.
Good luck with your trip.
Ed
 
This will be my 6th year running out of bella coola in the past I have always run deeper v boats hewes craft, fish rite, stabicraft I have ran all of those from bella coola to shearwater. Last year we stayed in namu and ran down the Burke it was ok going down. On the way back wind over a strong tide made for big steep waves 5 foot high steep and very close. I got pounded in a 22 foot fish rite I was sore for a week. I fish all over b.c I like central coast the best.
 
Five foot waves in a C-Dory will be uncomfortable, but the boat can take it. You aren't going to be going fast in those conditions, but the boat won't wallow around like a deep-V going slow.

A lot depends on the period of the waves - 5' close together will be uncomfortable in a boat twice the size. 5' with a 10 second period will be like riding a kiddie roller coaster. The C-Dorys are stout and seaworthy... it may take some experimenting to find the speed and direction into/with the waves that gives you the best ride. 5' on the beam will be miserable, in almost any small boat.

Jim B.
 
The 5' waves are not common but in the burke it can get rough it was a head sea. More times then not it's only 2' chop
 
That sounds like a fun trip. We have found that area to be very enjoyable. We've never been to Bella Coola but, have been as far as Eucott Bay for the hot springs. The coho fishing can be lights out in the area. We've heard of great halibut fishing as well. Will you be day tripping from Bella Coola?

We have an 07 22 cruiser with twin Suzuki 40's with a tohatsu 6 kicker and feel comfortable loading it fairly heavy. We have never weighed our boat but I can give you a rundown of the gear we had aboard on our last big trip up on the B.C. Coast.

We left Port Hardy this year with our normal crew of four (two adults and two children). We had full fuel and water tanks plus an additional 23 gallons of fuel plus 2 cases of botlled water. As well we had a weeks worth of food in a 155 quart cooler. Lots of dry foodstuff packed in various places also.

For fishing we carried 1 shrimp pot and 1 crab pot plus an ace line hauler. 2 scotty electric downriggers with three 16 pound cannonballs, for most of the trip. 4 rods and reels along with 2 tackle boxes.

Also on board we had a 2400w generator and the typical cruising gear. (lines, fenders, water hose, extra props and safety and first aid kits).

We pulled our Portland Pudgy on a 75 ft towline as well.

On a typical day trip we can manage about 21 kts at wot. On our trip up north we could only get 15 kts wot at the start. The boat was a little slower to get on plane but it was not an issue. The weight definately softens the ride in the wind chop. But it obviously will effect fuel efficiency.

Here's a photo taken just after launching in Port Hardy.

http://www.c-brats.com/modules.php?full ... _photo.php
 
Was the 15knot pulling your dingy or with it on the roof? I hope to be able to Cruz at around 15knots when Im loaded up so I will make sure I have the right props. It sounds like weight will not be a issue.
 
We towed the Pudgy for the entire three weeks. We have been caught in Burke Channel going with an outgoing tide against a strong inflow. I would not describe it as comfortable in the Cdory. But I did feel safe. Something like 4-6 knots speed over ground.

Cheers,

Karl
 
Our experience with speed & a very heavily loaded CD 22 towing our Mokai is just about identical to Amy & Karl only we'er powered with twin Honda 40's & 10x12" stainless 3 blade Solas props. Having the combination Permatrims & trim tabs really help especially after taking on a full load of 100 gal of fuel. I would prefer to be lighter & not towing in very rough water, but have been amazed at how well the boat has handled some very rough water even when being very heavily loaded & towing the Mokai in the inside & outside waters of Southeast Alaska.

Jay
 
We have travelled quite a bit with a heavily loaded boat including towing a dinghy and carrying both a dinghy and kayak on the cabin roof. No problem and no feeling of being topheavy. This includes towing the dinghy at 16kts with no trouble. We are powered by 2 Honda 40s.
 
I will not be towing a dingy so that should help my speed I hope to Cruz at around 15 to 18 mph something like that
 
Don't know if you have trim tabs/permatrims but they will help get you on plane. You should be able to be on plane (with a reasonably balanced boat) at 12-14kts. You will not be able to go as fast as in your deep Vee but then you should spend about 1/2 the fuel costs and when a deep Vee has to slow down because of rough water, you will be both faster and more comfortable.
 
Yes I have trim tabs so those should help
 
jordanclarke":2315170g said:
This will be my 6th year running out of bella coola in the past I have always run deeper v boats hewes craft, fish rite, stabicraft I have ran all of those from bella coola to shearwater. Last year we stayed in namu and ran down the Burke it was ok going down. On the way back wind over a strong tide made for big steep waves 5 foot high steep and very close. I got pounded in a 22 foot fish rite I was sore for a week. I fish all over b.c I like central coast the best.
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Last year before I ran up from Port Hardy to Hakai pass with our 22 Angler I was also wondering how much weight a 22 could handle.
We were loaded just over 100 gallons of gas. 2 x 165qt and 1 smaller cooler full of chipped ice, three down rigger balls three people, food water and gear for a four day trip.
Even without trim tabs or Permatrim she still performed very well.
The re-power from 75 to 115Hp is a significant help but
your 40's if propped correctly will do the job.
 
I have had 5 adults on mine many times and carried a limit of fish (10 halibut, 20-30 silvers, ling cod, various rockfish) back to port many times. You can tell it is heavy but it gets right up on step and performs fine. It does burn more gas.....around 5-6 gallons per hour....instead of the 3-4 it burns with just my son and I....
 
I found that our 22 Angler (twin 40's) ran better through a chop when carrying more weight. Not overloaded-level weight, but several adults, full fuel, and gear vs. just me. I fitted Permatrims and had her slightly under-propped for a lower speed power and control bias. Not really the boat of choice for higher speed through chop, but plenty stable and able to stay on plane at a very low speed. Powering through those close 5 footers at speed will be an exceedingly unpleasant experience though, so allow travel time and enjoy the ride. Have fun on your trip. I'd like to do a similar trip with my sons one of these years. Mike.
 
I'll 'venture' the USCG Aux answer to the question of "How much weight can my boat carry?" is traditional and not exact. It's a "Rule of Thumb" for recreational boats that do not have the weight limit posted on a placard near the helm or on the transom. Look here first.

If absent, calculate # of passengers: Length x Beam / 15
For your 22 C-Dory: 22'0" x 7'8" / 15 = 11 1/4 or 11 passengers (a passenger is assumed to weigh 150 lbs)

To get maximum weight: # passengers x 150
For your 22 C-Dory: 11 x 150 = 1650 lbs

Keep in mind the maximum weight is approximate and includes
*the combined actual weight of all passengers
*all gear, food, supplies, fuel, water, etc.
*outboard motor(s)

Personally, I would avoid loading any vessel to anything close to it's calculated maximum weight especially in rough or poor weather. And, when heavily loaded, balancing the load and passengers is wise.

Aye.
 
Ya I'm talking about myself and 2 others, fishing gear, clothing and full fuel and food for4 days. On the way home will be little food but lots of fish and ice.
 
Foggy":2yhdhwuk said:
(a passenger is assumed to weigh 150 lbs).
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I remembered that the U. S. Coast Guard had changed the weight capacity for the Washington State Ferry System a couple of years ago so I just "googled" the topic and came up with the following information which I will quote different segments of the article........

"On December 1, 2011 the U.S. Coast Guard raised the estimated weight from the previous 160 lbs per adult passenger to 185 lbs based on population information from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. 1/3 of American adults are now considered obese, the CDC says on its' website. That has reduced the number of passengers by about 250 passengers or so depending on the particular ferry. They generally carry 2,000, now it is 1,750. A couple of times like for a Seahawks game, we've had to cut off passengers and had to leave them at a dock."

Without looking I am guessing that my capacity plate reflects 150 lbs, but I weigh 185 lbs. Since my wife weighs less than me, that weight works for us as an average but then we do load our vessel with considerable amount of gear on occasions. Years ago when we had our 16' cruiser, we cruised on Lake Roosevelt, our vessel was way overloaded with the two of us plus our daughter plus a "boatload" of camping gear for beach camping. That was the turning point decision to purchase the 22'. The next summer we enjoyed a delightful time on Lake Roosevelt on the 22'. :lol:
 
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