Pat Anderson
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Yes, well, ahem, welcome to the C-Scats! :lol: :lol:
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Shoud'a left the whistle in the "honey pot". Would'a made an interesting artifact for some scatologist or future paleontologist!!!
P.S.: Interesting train of subjects!
True or False:
One man's truth can be just another man's ____ pile.
Dan has too much time on his hands and should get back to work.
Ditto for Pat Anderson. And some of the rest of us.
Time to clean up this discussion and get on with boating.
P.S.: Interesting train of subjects!
True or False:
One man's truth can be just another man's ____ pile.
Dan has too much time on his hands and should get back to work.
Ditto for Pat Anderson. And some of the rest of us.
Time to clean up this discussion and get on with boating.
El and Bill
New member
Gee, we remember when we carried a sextant to back up our RDF, and then an RDF to back up LORAN, and then a LORAN to back up GPS. Always a problem where to mount those electronic gizmos, but, through it all, we always carried a hand-held compass for taking bearings and still do. Never liked fixed compasses -- too hard to take a bearing and too easy for a magnetic field around those new electronics to affect them. But then most folks today think bearings only belong in a trailer wheel.
Of course, anyone who has navigated in fog knows that a compass is still of little value for navigation in tight spots in cross currents or beam winds if the visibility is zero and you don't carry one of those electronic gizmos to tell you where you are. Then you use the ultimate ranging instrument -- your ears!
Why, I remember as a wee tad cruising offshore in fog listening to the bells on the buoys (yep, you can distinguish one buoy from another by their sound, if you know them well) to get us home. Trouble was, sometimes in a fog there wasn't enough wind to raise waves and ring the bells. Then our hand held compass pointed us toward shore and not to England, even though we'd fetch up goodness knows where and be late for dinner.
And there were those entertaining evenings as a counselor in Scout Camp teaching compass skills. The kids knew "if they had a compass they could get 'home.'" So we'd walk them out into the gathering darkness of a cloudy night in the woods, and when the forest was sufficiently black hand them the compass and say, "Now get us home."
So, we agree with the basic premise of this post. An understanding of basic principles and backup skills is essential, especially if lives depend on it. Relying on ANY instrument without understanding its proper use and limitations can have serious results. However, as most folks have said, one shouldn't ignore the advances in calculators or navigation instruments. Understand the limitations of any instrumentation (abacus, slide rules, computers --- sextants, mounted compasses, hand-held compasses, RDF, LORAN, and GPS).
Of course, anyone who has navigated in fog knows that a compass is still of little value for navigation in tight spots in cross currents or beam winds if the visibility is zero and you don't carry one of those electronic gizmos to tell you where you are. Then you use the ultimate ranging instrument -- your ears!
Why, I remember as a wee tad cruising offshore in fog listening to the bells on the buoys (yep, you can distinguish one buoy from another by their sound, if you know them well) to get us home. Trouble was, sometimes in a fog there wasn't enough wind to raise waves and ring the bells. Then our hand held compass pointed us toward shore and not to England, even though we'd fetch up goodness knows where and be late for dinner.
And there were those entertaining evenings as a counselor in Scout Camp teaching compass skills. The kids knew "if they had a compass they could get 'home.'" So we'd walk them out into the gathering darkness of a cloudy night in the woods, and when the forest was sufficiently black hand them the compass and say, "Now get us home."
So, we agree with the basic premise of this post. An understanding of basic principles and backup skills is essential, especially if lives depend on it. Relying on ANY instrument without understanding its proper use and limitations can have serious results. However, as most folks have said, one shouldn't ignore the advances in calculators or navigation instruments. Understand the limitations of any instrumentation (abacus, slide rules, computers --- sextants, mounted compasses, hand-held compasses, RDF, LORAN, and GPS).
And to get back to the original attempt at humor-
Two Iraqi spies meet in a busy restaurant after they had successfully
slipped into the U.S.
The first spy begins speaking in Arabic.
The second spy shushes him quickly and whispers:
"Don't blow our cover, stupid!
We're in America now. Speak Spanish."
Two Iraqi spies meet in a busy restaurant after they had successfully
slipped into the U.S.
The first spy begins speaking in Arabic.
The second spy shushes him quickly and whispers:
"Don't blow our cover, stupid!
We're in America now. Speak Spanish."
Sneaks":15hn5hh9 said:LOL! Marines are known to be full of bull, as are retired sailors like me, so if the term offended you, my apologies.
Don
Certainly no offense or apologies needed here. As many of you know only two things fall from the sky...........bird crap and paratroopers!............AIRBORNE - ALL THE WAY! :lol: