starcrafttom
Active member
Did not say I wanted one just pointing out a interesting boat. The motor is in the bow under the bed to make room in the living spaces.
Interesting new cruiser
- Thread starter Robert H. Wilkinson
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The Tucker 33 is an interesting boat--but certainly nothing new. There have been a number of passagemakers which were long and narrow (10 foot beam on 55 footers, driven by 30 to 55 hp diesels--one circumnavigated, I know of another which crossed the Atlantic. Just had another complete perkins 4- 108 sitting in a crate in the engine room in case of failure of the installed engine...
The long shaft does not make a lot of sense to me. You have to ave several bearings, and probably an universal joint. Also the boats shown in Yachtworld for sale have masts and apparently a jib--didn't see any mains. Also there were bilge keels, since I suspect the boat is prone to rolling.
The long shaft does not make a lot of sense to me. You have to ave several bearings, and probably an universal joint. Also the boats shown in Yachtworld for sale have masts and apparently a jib--didn't see any mains. Also there were bilge keels, since I suspect the boat is prone to rolling.
Wandering Sagebrush
Free Range Human
Here's a boat (and perhaps a business opportunity :- ) that has caught my eye over the years... If the website is still current, this boat is for sale.
http://allweatherboats.com/
http://allweatherboats.com/
I question the sight lines on the Logan-Tucker 33. Small foreword windows with dorade vents (for the engine?) in front of them.
The driver and admiral seats on the Allweather Oilscrew are elevated and not very secure to my eye. Hard to tell from the image but after seeing them in person I took it off my list.
http://allweatherboats.com/id14.html
call me scrooge...
The driver and admiral seats on the Allweather Oilscrew are elevated and not very secure to my eye. Hard to tell from the image but after seeing them in person I took it off my list.
http://allweatherboats.com/id14.html
call me scrooge...
Wandering Sagebrush
Free Range Human
I've not seen an Allweather in person, just have read about them, and seen the pictures. I like the overall design and concept, but perhaps the build quality is lacking.
Robert H. Wilkinson
New member
Thanks for all the info and links, lots of interesting boats! The Allweather is definitely one I would love to see. A very seaworthy design with its high freeboard forward and double ended hull. Not to mention a heck of a bow rail! Hopefully somebody will take over and continue to build them.
The Tucker is a good looking boat, but I agree with Bob - not a fan of long drive shafts. Unless they are perfectly balanced they can add a lot of noise and vibration to a boat. Maybe that's why I like the idea of the drive pods on the Mainship. I also agree with Chester - the "forward scanning portholes" seem very restrictive!
I suspect the height of the foredeck is to blame for this and the engine below the cabin to blame for that. I also don't like the idea of a hot smelly engine below my bed! :? A friend of mine who rebuilds old woodies for a living restored a former coast guard launch. It has a Chrysler 440 under a hatch in front of the helm then a bulkhead and another hatch in the bow that opens up to reveal a rumble seat. A beautiful wooden boat - but the engine - not readily accessible and that seat up front??? :?
The Castine is a unique boat that will get lots of look see'ers at the docks - and a decent price but I would call it a dayboat for protected waters. Good canal boat.
Regards, Rob
The Tucker is a good looking boat, but I agree with Bob - not a fan of long drive shafts. Unless they are perfectly balanced they can add a lot of noise and vibration to a boat. Maybe that's why I like the idea of the drive pods on the Mainship. I also agree with Chester - the "forward scanning portholes" seem very restrictive!
I suspect the height of the foredeck is to blame for this and the engine below the cabin to blame for that. I also don't like the idea of a hot smelly engine below my bed! :? A friend of mine who rebuilds old woodies for a living restored a former coast guard launch. It has a Chrysler 440 under a hatch in front of the helm then a bulkhead and another hatch in the bow that opens up to reveal a rumble seat. A beautiful wooden boat - but the engine - not readily accessible and that seat up front??? :? The Castine is a unique boat that will get lots of look see'ers at the docks - and a decent price but I would call it a dayboat for protected waters. Good canal boat.
Regards, Rob
The AllWeather's are nice boats. The fuel economy is what caught my eye. There are 2 of them in the area, and one I have seen around Port Townsend several times. Have not been on one, but have been close, and they look well built but there are some things that are lacking, forward viability for one. It would be on my list to see except for that and the top speed limit -- hull speed. But then I guess you can't cruise at 20 knots on about 1 quart per hour of fuel. :lol:
Harvey
SleepyC:moon
Another almost favorite boat.
Harvey
SleepyC:moon
Another almost favorite boat.
Matt Gurnsey
New member
I always thought the Mainship 31 was one of the nicest looking boats in that class.
The 32's aft bulkhead leaves me cold, and the tumblehome transom eats up pace for the cockpit...
I think they ruined a nice looking boat.
The 32's aft bulkhead leaves me cold, and the tumblehome transom eats up pace for the cockpit...
I think they ruined a nice looking boat.
I like this thread so I'll send it back to the top. This is a boat that gets me thinking. Of course, I spend way too much time checking out the C-Dory competition on the web and it always sends me back to "My Girl" (and that's the way it should be!). And this boat at almost twice the money, wider, heavier, more difficult to trailer, and with a top speed of 17 knts is no different. But my gosh she looks good! I guess look but don't touch will remain the rule.
http://www.caledonboatworks.com/index.html
Seeing this boat does inspire me to take on some winter projects for Miss C-Dory. "My Girl" might have some plastic surgery this winter. :shock: :smilep :wink :teeth
http://www.caledonboatworks.com/index.html
Seeing this boat does inspire me to take on some winter projects for Miss C-Dory. "My Girl" might have some plastic surgery this winter. :shock: :smilep :wink :teeth
I agree that the new Marlow/Mainship doesn't have the eye appeal of the original design. I've been aboard the new ones (same boat except for the different drive systems) and while there are some very nice interior touches, the cost has risen far beyond what the originals were selling for just three years ago.
Before buying my TomCat I looked into the Caledon and spoke with the builder. I like what I could see on their website, but there were no boats in the U.S. at the time for me to inspect. It's a shame that this small builder cannot invest in building a demo and taking it to boat shows, because I think the boat has a lot of merit.
As an alternative, I would closely watch what Eastern is doing to improve the popular Rosborough. Regardless of what the old Rosborough loyalists say about not wanting a boat built outside of Canada, I think Eastern will bring some new thinking to this little classic. I understand the owner of the first Rosborough built by Eastern is extremely happy.
I also know that the builder of Great Harbour trawlers is working on an outboard powered 32-footer designed to run efficiently at 20-knots as well as sip fuel at 6 knots. It's going to be fairly narrow and quite light and simple, making it possible to tow with a reasonably sized vehicle. This could be worth looking into for those who want to step up from a C-Dory 25 or Rosborough, but don't want all the bells whistles and costs of a Ranger Tug etc.
Overall, the concept of pocket cruisers, or trailerable trawlers, is growing. Hopefully the C-Dory factory can start introducing some upgrades and improvements and do a little bit of marketing. Their outdated website still doesn't list any of their dealers. How would a new customer know how to find one if interested?
Lots of opportunities for builders with creative thinking and who listen to where the market is going.
Before buying my TomCat I looked into the Caledon and spoke with the builder. I like what I could see on their website, but there were no boats in the U.S. at the time for me to inspect. It's a shame that this small builder cannot invest in building a demo and taking it to boat shows, because I think the boat has a lot of merit.
As an alternative, I would closely watch what Eastern is doing to improve the popular Rosborough. Regardless of what the old Rosborough loyalists say about not wanting a boat built outside of Canada, I think Eastern will bring some new thinking to this little classic. I understand the owner of the first Rosborough built by Eastern is extremely happy.
I also know that the builder of Great Harbour trawlers is working on an outboard powered 32-footer designed to run efficiently at 20-knots as well as sip fuel at 6 knots. It's going to be fairly narrow and quite light and simple, making it possible to tow with a reasonably sized vehicle. This could be worth looking into for those who want to step up from a C-Dory 25 or Rosborough, but don't want all the bells whistles and costs of a Ranger Tug etc.
Overall, the concept of pocket cruisers, or trailerable trawlers, is growing. Hopefully the C-Dory factory can start introducing some upgrades and improvements and do a little bit of marketing. Their outdated website still doesn't list any of their dealers. How would a new customer know how to find one if interested?
Lots of opportunities for builders with creative thinking and who listen to where the market is going.
Robert H. Wilkinson
New member
Re. Caledon - I don't recall seeing a 25' personally but they are built close to where I live. I have seen their dingies at the shows and they are expertly crafted, beautiful boats. I will be going to the Toronto boat show in Jan. if anyone has a particular question - send me a pm.
Re. Mainship 32 - I agree the aft beam to profile of the 32's pilothouse is not as pleasing to the eye as the old 31' - but I suspect squaring off the corner may have been a necessary evil in order to close off the pilothouse hard. The old 31' used curtains to close off the rear of the pilothouse to weather.
Re. Tumblehome - drawing the gunwales in towards the centreline of the boat. Several reasons have been given for the purpose of this design but I won't bore you all with these. Just the interesting trivia of where the name began. Back in the heyday of pirates - boats with tumblehome gunwales were found to be harder for pirates to board. When a pirate ship pulled broadside to another ship - through out their grappling hooks and jumped over their gunwales - they often landed in the drink. It was said that "they would tumble home to the sea" - hence the name tumblehome.
Re. the reverse or raked forward transom on the 32' . If you take the virtual tour on the company website you will see that it is not a fixed transom. The centre section powers down to make a decent sized swim platform. It can also be locked in the vertical position and a seat attaches to it. It would appear to be storage to either side.
There are several reasons behind this design. Some say it is for speed - giving the hull a longer waterline while reducing weight in the stern. Some say is was used to get around a 100 year old racing rule. There is even a rumour that after the first leg of a race - Ted Brewer took a chain saw to the transom of his boat and reconfigured it over night. He apparently did much better in the second leg of the race.
Both tumblehome gunwales and raked forward transoms went the way of the do do bird when fibreglass became the material of choice for boat hulls. It is almost impossible to make a one piece hull with either of these attributes and then get it out of the mold. Chris Craft is the only builder that I know of that has developed a method of building a hull with some forward rake to the transom. They apparently pull the hull forward as it comes out of the mold.
Regards. Rob
Re. Mainship 32 - I agree the aft beam to profile of the 32's pilothouse is not as pleasing to the eye as the old 31' - but I suspect squaring off the corner may have been a necessary evil in order to close off the pilothouse hard. The old 31' used curtains to close off the rear of the pilothouse to weather.
Re. Tumblehome - drawing the gunwales in towards the centreline of the boat. Several reasons have been given for the purpose of this design but I won't bore you all with these. Just the interesting trivia of where the name began. Back in the heyday of pirates - boats with tumblehome gunwales were found to be harder for pirates to board. When a pirate ship pulled broadside to another ship - through out their grappling hooks and jumped over their gunwales - they often landed in the drink. It was said that "they would tumble home to the sea" - hence the name tumblehome.
Re. the reverse or raked forward transom on the 32' . If you take the virtual tour on the company website you will see that it is not a fixed transom. The centre section powers down to make a decent sized swim platform. It can also be locked in the vertical position and a seat attaches to it. It would appear to be storage to either side.
There are several reasons behind this design. Some say it is for speed - giving the hull a longer waterline while reducing weight in the stern. Some say is was used to get around a 100 year old racing rule. There is even a rumour that after the first leg of a race - Ted Brewer took a chain saw to the transom of his boat and reconfigured it over night. He apparently did much better in the second leg of the race.
Both tumblehome gunwales and raked forward transoms went the way of the do do bird when fibreglass became the material of choice for boat hulls. It is almost impossible to make a one piece hull with either of these attributes and then get it out of the mold. Chris Craft is the only builder that I know of that has developed a method of building a hull with some forward rake to the transom. They apparently pull the hull forward as it comes out of the mold.
Regards. Rob