late apology

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Nan-C

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Well this is embarrassing. I hate it when I'm a dumb-ass. I was going to post this in "That's Life" in the thread it references, but I fear seeing the "Proud American" thread surface might spoil members' morning coffee, and besides, that forum is too private for my well-deserved public humiliation.

I did not know the "Proud American" thread still existed until yesterday. My first knowledge of the "That's Life" forum came last week when I pulled up my posts -- also new to me -- and saw the "Why we post" thread at the top of the list after I had assumed it had been zapped. I assumed it and the Proud American" thread and others like them were vaporized when they got too hot. Then in stumbling around while logged on -- which frequently I am not -- I discovered "That's Life" and its purpose. Yesterday, it occurred to me that the "Proud American" thread was probably in the same limbo. My first experience with a disappearing thread was when I returned home the evening of July 4th, and it seemed logical it had been removed. My tizzy-fit last message was the last I had seen. I won't go into the sorry details of the circumstances that interfered with my spending time acquainting myself with this site, but I will make an unintentionally too-long-delayed apology for escalating beyond reasonable proportion and for the appearance of being unresponsive to civil gestures.

Oldgrowth, I hope you are still reading. I truly apologize for leaping to conclusions and assuming your remark about "those who would destroy" the country was directed toward the left. Yesterday, reading your response to me, I recognized I was wrong and at fault. We agree on the danger of extremists, whether left or right. We also share an appreciation for friends with conflicting ideologies. Your response to my last post of the thread was more civil than I deserved. You are a gentleman. I wrote a somewhat long post for the "Why we post" thread, near its beginning, that vanished when I hit preview -- I think because I was, inadvertently not logged on. In it, in mentioning the diverse members I would enjoy meeting, I said it is clear you are not only talented, but also a man who would do anything for a friend. I hope we do have the opportunity to meet someday.

Tyboo, I have intended for months to thank you for not disappearing me per my mid-snit request. I really enjoy this site and learn a lot on it. I would not have procrastinated with the thank-you had I seen your post.

Thanks to all for bearing with me.

Joe, my lost "Why we post" post might have challenged for the longest post record that I assume you hold. Maybe I'll try to recreate it. :D

Regards to all,

Greg
 
Greg,

I too have had long posts 'disappear' prior to them making it to the thread.

I now try to remember to use the 'highlite' (select) and then right click for 'copy' before hitting 'submit'. That way if the post disappears, you can just use 'paste' to do it over.

Your point about not being able to see the 'Thats Life' thread if you are not logged in is good. Members should log in to get the maximum benefit from the site.
 
Nan-c – thank you, but no apology necessary.

When I read your post, I had no idea what you were talking about until I went back and re-read the Proud American thread again.

It is too bad so many have choose to leave this community or feel it necessary to leave because
1. we don’t like what they have posted or
2. we miss-understood what they posted or
3. we decided their post has a hidden messages we disagree with or
4. _____(you fill in the blank)

Sometimes a topic will come up about something that falls into category 1, 2, or 3 above and instead of ignoring it or asking for clarification, we light the fire. This happens with boating issues as well as non-boating issues.

It is most likely to happen when we do not know the other person and the only connection we have with him/her, is a post in reference to one of our post or another members post.

If we spent a little time in getting to know the other person before attacking, there would be a lot less fires for Mike or Bill to put out. Mike or Bill, if you feel this does not belong here, delete it or move it to the "That's Life" forum.

I punish no one but my self by not being involved with this group. I have made too many great friends on this site to just walk away. I will not be posting as much, mostly because I don't have time, but will try to be more involved than I have in the last 30 days.

Many of my favorite members are no longer posting :( and I miss them more than I would miss my boat, if it went away. :cry:
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Yeah Dave, I agree with Tom, it's nice to see you posting again.

Also, your sentiments should go out to guys like Starcraft Tom and DogOn Dan as well as others,

Oldgrowth":3ezc8zk0 said:
I punish no one but my self by not being involved with this group. I have made too many great friends on this site to just walk away...
Many of my favorite members are no longer posting and I miss them more than I would miss my boat, if it went away.
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Peter
 
oldgrowth":u0s1pxf4 said:
It is too bad so many have choose to leave this community or feel it necessary to leave because
...
4. _____(you fill in the blank)
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This seems like a good place to drop in a relevant comment. I've had conservative friends complain to me that if they dare post anything remotely not liberal they feel that the thought police (you know who you are) jump in and make the poster feel unwelcome. Let me emphasize here I am not talking about threads like the most recent one that was shut down, but rather relatively civil ones where conservative viewpoints are not welcomed. I recognize the desire among some of you to emphasize civil discourse here, but that should not come at the expense of making those with differing philosophies unwelcome.

Thanks for listening.
Warren (unrepentantly liberal, but valuing his conservative friends and wanting to keep them involved here.)
 
Hi Dave --

I was a little shocked to see this thread surface, but I really appreciate your graciousness. We hope to make a northwest gathering next year and will look forward to meeting you and getting to know you. You can count on my owing you several beers.

Warren -- Your wisdom reflects sentiments I share and live by in the real world. I am learning cyberspace, with its lack of non-verbal expression, poses dangers and temptations that warrant care and attention.

On a lighter note, we are preparing to leave for the Keys around April 20. This will be our first real use of the boat since we bought it last April. A remodel of my mother-in-law's house is finally finished. Instead of the two or three months I had assumed, it took closer to 9. The good news is I finished three weeks ago, and it sold on the first day it was listed. It cost us a fall trip to San Francisco Bay and a winter trip to Florida, but winter or not we are going now. And you cannot imagine how much we deserve this trip.

Regards to all,

Greg
 
Greg – I look forward to meeting you and your wife when you visit the Northwest. However; when you are a guest in my area, I buy the beer. When and if I visit your area, you can buy the beer.

Tom, Peter and Warren – thank you for the welcome back. Look forward to seeing you guys at a gathering in the near future.
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Dave dlt.gif
 
Warren (unrepentantly liberal, but valuing his conservative friends and wanting to keep them involved here.)
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As another unrepentant liberal (even at times an extremist), I also value my conservative friends and want to keep them involved here, and get to know them better. This does not mean I will not be expressing personal views from time to time, but I will strive to not pick fights. The USCG thread was, I think, fine and even informative until things eroded into a mano-a-mano shouting match.
The simple fact is that our chosen sport is unavoidably linked to state, fed and international fish policy, environmental policy and here in the Northwest to national security and immigration enforcement policy. These issues will always be charged but remain, in my opinion, worth talking about and appropriate for a boating site.
Some of us play and express ourselves on other sites where things can get more than blunt. The key is to remember where we are and when here to "just be nice". Not devoid of opinion but respectful of the opinion of others. [/quote]
 
Thanks, one issue I failed to list involves intergovernmental policy and catch allocation between commercial, tribal and sports fishing interests.
 
I too, was enjoying learning about the boardings intil the thread went to pot. Wouldn't mind have a simular thread without the flamin and shoutin.

Harvey
SleepyC :moon
 
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