New battery placement on a 19

In todays world, it may make a lot more sense to have one of the lithium ion jump start batteries such as:

http://shop.coolwaterproducts.com/Micro ... 1-XP-1.htm

This specific one has all sorts of attachments for changing other devices, 200 amp to 400 amp peak. Less expensive that all of that heavy duty cable, fuse, etc, and 100% back up, independent. It may be available for less,.not sure about the attachments etc.
 
I keep eyeballing them in the store and its only a matter of time Bob.

Neat devices and could double as a device charger as well.

Greg
 
thataway":39g0ocl8 said:
In todays world, it may make a lot more sense to have one of the lithium ion jump start batteries such as:

http://shop.coolwaterproducts.com/Micro ... 1-XP-1.htm

This specific one has all sorts of attachments for changing other devices, 200 amp to 400 amp peak. Less expensive that all of that heavy duty cable, fuse, etc, and 100% back up, independent. It may be available for less,.not sure about the attachments etc.
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Excellent advice Bob, I have one of those and have used it to start my motorcycle once, some lady at the marina parking lot's car, and it weighs less than a bottle of water, and takes up less than 1/4 of the space of the jump start kit I have been carrying for the last 5 years. 1 pound versus 15#s. Easy choice.

Harvey
SleepyC :moon

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Those are really handy. I have one made by Anti-Gravity (XP-1 in my case) and it works well as a jump starter and can also charge many other things with various attachments (I have an option which is a 12 volt cigarette socket).

I haven't used it to start the boat or my own RV (haven't needed to yet, knock on wood), but a friend had one first and we "mocked up" a jump start of his big gas engine (6.8 liter) by disconnecting the battery and hooking up the XP-1 instead. Not that this is a perfect test because it was probably 45º out and the engine wasn't unwilling to start for any reason; but we did start it twice with the XP-1 only, and it still showed over half charged when we stopped. I also used it to jump start someone ('99 Chevy Bronco-ish SUV with a totally dead battery).

A minus is that you have to keep it charged (although it does retain charge for a long time), and there is the dilemma with a lithium battery that it's not good to store it fully charged in a hot environment (I'm guessing this applies to other lithium batteries -- it does hold true for my laptop battery, which they recommend be 50% charged if it has to be stored in a hot place). I've also heard of the battery in them bulging/failing. Still, it's tiny and may save the day sometime so I'm happy to have one. But jumper cables can just sit unattended forever and they really don't have any way to fail. OTOOH, with the Bronco above it would have been very inconvenient to bring in a vehicle and jumper cables (they had "4-wheeled" further than I would like to bring my RV), but I was able to just walk in with the Anti-Gravity pack and start them right up (after which it still had 3 of 4 bars showing). So that's a plus. I still carry jumper cables (on land anyway) along with the Anti-Gravity starter battery.
 
Here is a link to a c-dory man (Fishwisher)
You can click the link (or copy and paste)
go all the way down the page on the right to
categories - then click "Boats I Have Loved"
then it will say New C-Dory projects and click
read more then scroll down and it will show
in pictures and dialog how he moved the battery
and added another from the starboard lazarette
to between the fuel tanks. This fellow is a
perfectionist and always does things correct.
I hope this will be of some help to you
Fish Commander
The link - https://fishwisher.wordpress.com
 
That is one example of a bilge that is different from mine and likely other 19s of the same vintage. That boat has no space between the tanks and bilge.

Greg
 
Aurelia":32u7a7tg said:
That is one example of a bilge that is different from mine and likely other 19s of the same vintage. That boat has no space between the tanks and bilge.

Greg
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Probably because it is a 22 Angle?. That is about the same configuration as my 2006 C Dory 22 Cruiser. (Difference is a slight difference in the plastic between the tanks and cockpit, there seems to be a thru hull in the aft bilge sump, which is off set. Other wise the tanks seem to be the same size, and set on the bottom of the boat.
 
The space on the OP's boat in question is likely the same as ours. 22 in deep by 30 in wide between the tanks with a 8.5inx8.5in bilge centered rearward.

Greg
 
I haven't seen the boats in question, but one difference I have noticed on my own boat.

It came with Waylander Marine 25 gallon tanks, which were stock at around this time (early 2000's). These tanks were wide set, so there was a lot of space between them. On the other hand, they went right up to the bottom of the splashwell, and also "stuck out" forward of the splashwell lip (hence why those boats don't have the full coverage fuel tank covers that tuck under the splashwell, but instead have 3/4 height starboard partial covers).

I then bought the "current" 23-gallon Moeller tanks. These are set closer together (less space between the two), and there is a bit of room at the top (unless you have a newer boat with the cockpit sole molding, which is why they were cut down slightly). However they line up with the splashwell lip, thus full fiberglass covers fit (the ones that tuck under the splashwell lip). I like the tanks being flush with that lip, but they do give up some "in-between" space.

There were also, briefly, 25-gallon Moeller tanks, before the inch was taken off the height to accommodate the "permanent" cockpit sole and tank liner setup. Unfortunately Moeller cannot sell these as the owner of the rights (or whatever the correct terminology is) is some way-back, unknowable, previous C-Dory maker. The current 23-gallon tanks they do have the rights to make/sell.

Anyway, upshot is that the Waylander 25 gallon tanks (early 2000's) have more space between them (I can't remember exactly but maybe something on the order of 5-6" more).
 
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