Overnighting on CD16 Angler for Two

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Pat Anderson

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OK, then! Brock perfected it for one, but has anybody else slept two in comfort on a 16 Angler? Our first real test will be Jarrell Cove the first weekend in May! Here is how we doing it. First, we got a camperback of course. For the daytime, a couple of folding chairs and a little folding table in the cockpit, the Mr Heater Buddy, and a generic portable one burner butane stove. A tea kettle, a gallon of water, cold food and hot food that you can prepare by pouring in boiling water! The secret for sleeping is we took out the existing pedestal seats, and put the seats on Cabella's quad pedestal seat stands ($29 each - and damn, that Cabella's in Lacey is HUGE!) - these are free standing, so you can fold the seats down and store them stand and all in the cuddy. Then we got a Greatland double airbed at Target and put a custom fit tarp under it (mainly just to protect against snagging the airbed on anything). The airbed fits perfectly in the cockpit and goes a little ways into cabin (this is why the existing pedestal seats had to go). We tested the airbed in the cockpit yesterday, very comfortable! We will spread out the Travasak, and voila (viola, as some say!), snug as a bug in rug! In the morning, we will deflate the airbed and retrieve the seats, folding chairs and folding table from the cuddy! It will of course require a certain amount of care when nature calls in the middle of the night...and it is tight, no doubt about it. Why, you ask! I like the 5-6 mpg instead of 2-3 mpg, I like towing with the Forester (20+ mpg) instead of the Titan (10+ mpg). But mainly, because it is there, just like Everest!
 
The Cabella's quad pedestal stands are for boat seats - we replaced the flaky plastic feet with nice big rubber ones, and they seem extremely stable, do not think they are going anywhere. Here is a picture from the online catalog:

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I am also thinking about putting some carpet down in the cabin, that would be even more non-skid I think. Pictures to follow one of these days!


dotnmarty":3ck2x2cu said:
Sounds like a great idea Pat. My only concern would be about the seat stability. Let us know how it all works out.
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Sounds good Pat! I was going to ask where the dog would sleep, but we all know that he will be in the middle of the bed.
I used a seat like the ones you have purchased and it performed well as long as I didn't lean to far in anyone direction.
Get yerself back to Pend Orielle and we'll go mack fishin'. The bite's on.

chris
 
One of these days we'll take you up on that, Chris! We did have some fun, didn't we...I only wish Patty had cashed the damn bounty check before it expired! So far, Patty says "NO DOG on the 16!" but we'll see about that too in time!


Chris & Donna Bain":2ovmu2u9 said:
Sounds good Pat! I was going to ask where the dog would sleep, but we all know that he will be in the middle of the bed.
I used a seat like the ones you have purchased and it performed well as long as I didn't lean to far in anyone direction.
Get yerself back to Pend Orielle and we'll go mack fishin'. The bite's on.

chris
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Pat, sounds like you two are going to have it plush. Deena and I have spent many nights on an M-15 (Montgomery 15) sail boat, in the V-birth. Daytime, the cooler and most everything else was in the birth, night time, most everything went into the cockpit so we could get into the birth. We did what we called backpack sailing, and no cooking on board. (She sure likes the CD-22. now with onboard galley and cabin heat. Looking forward to seeing you at Jarrell. We are still looking for a good northerly launch site for that.
Harvey
SleepyC :moon
 
Pat, I assume you have tried sleeping on a floor with the air mattress at home. We tried one on Journey On, and since we're no lightweights, it wasn't that comfy. We went back to the foam pads.

Just a thought.

Boris
 
OK, now for some photos...Of course in all these pix, the camperback sides and back are missing so I could take the pix!

Here is the normal setup, with the seats on the quad pedestal stands.

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And here is the same view, cleared out for putting the airbed in place. The seats are folded down, and the seats attached to the stands are in the cuddy.

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And finally, here is the airbed (uninflated) on the cockpit floor. We have inflated it, it fits perfectly and is quite comfortable.

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This "conversion" is intriguing as I am sharing with the BOSS. The gas and dollar saving advantages of the CD 16, whether an Angler or Cruiser that has real more than one night capabilities could mean a boat in the HOA storage yard sooner rather than later!

We'll have to go to Lake Powell for the fall cruise send off just ot see the diversity.

Bill Uffelman
Las Vegas NV
 
Well, Bill, we are dragging the CD25 down to Lake Powell, no way Patty could handle 10 days in the 16! I could, but then, we have been married for 40 years (no foolin'), and I would be like to be married for 40 more (OK, so odds are not so hot for seeing 100, but I'm game to try!). Boat camping can only be carried so far if I want to make that goal!


Bill Uffelman":xtkphgq3 said:
We'll have to go to Lake Powell for the fall cruise send off just ot see the diversity.

Bill Uffelman
Las Vegas NV
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Pat, that looks much more comfy than sleeping in the cuddy. I think I spy an MSD to starboard and one of those small propane-fired radiant heaters to port in the last photo, no? Very space-efficient.

I'll be very interested in what you think of those seats after they have survived some rough travel.
 
Yeah, the Mr Buddy Heater and the porta-potti are essentials here on the Upper Left Coast! There is a one burner butane stove in the cuddy as well. It is of course all very tight, and we'll learn as we go along how to cope. First weekend in May at Jarrell Cove will be the test!
 
Hi Pat,

It looks like you have the essentials covered. The final part of the equation is being sure that you allow each other space. Bill and El aside, most normal folks feel more cramped when you have trouble moving around each other rather than moving your stuff. We did plenty of overnighting in our 17' catboat and had to shuffle things from the cabin to the cockpit each night. We used a Rubbermaid bin to hold cooking gear, the cooler was also the table - eliminating clutter makes it all work with less effort.

I think your set-up with your 16 looks very workable for an occasional fun weekend... and then having the 25 for when you want to live "luxuriously"! :D

Best wishes,
Jim
 
My bride (the Boss) and I were married June 21, 1969 so if we haven't worked out being in close proximity to one another by now we never will! Because of work commitmnets a 3 or 4 day weekend is about all we can handle for the next few years so the smaller boat might fill the bill for the time being -- we'll see.

Bill Uffelman
Las Vegas NV
 
Bill Uffelman":fxwa4yo5 said:
My bride (the Boss) and I were married June 21, 1969 so if we haven't worked out being in close proximity to one another by now we never will! Because of work commitmnets a 3 or 4 day weekend is about all we can handle for the next few years so the smaller boat might fill the bill for the time being -- we'll see.

Bill Uffelman
Las Vegas NV
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Hi Bill,

You have two years on the Blonde and me. We spent 32 years working together; traveled the country by motorcycle (tenting), RVs, and boats. We know we can deal with close quarters. But, TRULY, not everyone can do it - no matter how long you've been married. Things are different on a boat, 'cause you can't always "just step outside." :mrgreen: There is way less than 100 square feet on a 16... smaller than the average American bathroom. Could you spend a 3-day weekend in your bathroom with your significant other? How about if it was raining and you couldn't get out? :disgust

This is not intended to be a critique of anyone choice of boat. Just a reality check. I know Pat and Patty, and they are up for the adventure. But Pat is smart enough to know what "luxuries" to have aboard to keep harmony.

Best wishes,
Jim B.
 
If, just if, seat stability becomes a problem, you could put two recessed eyebolts in the flat deck and used turnbuckles to secure the seat bases.
 
If it's breathing room you want, the 16 is the perfect boat. "You go ahead and spend the night on the boat dear, I'll stay home in the comfy chair".
 
Pat: Are the seats in the sixteen high enough to see good out the windows? Could you post the height as it is not listed on the web-site. I need a second forward facing seat for my Classic. Thank You, C-Otter.
 
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