Performance Differences between C-22 and C-25

The mileage at displacement speeds-- is very similar between the 25 and 22. We ran at displacement speeds most of our last several weeks on the Tennessee River and were comparing with several 22's. Look at it this way, if you are getting 5 to 6 miles per gallon at 6 mph, the 22 will have about 46 gallons of fuel usable, and the 25 will have about 95 gallons of fuel usable. Let's be conservative and say 5 miles per gallon for the 22 this will be about 230 miles, and for the 25 will be 480 miles. (This is without any 10% safety margin). I was discussing with Jonathon Arthur on "Salty" about his taking his 22 to the Virgin Islands. If you look thru the archives, you can find folks claiming up to 16 mpg at very slow idle speeds with the 22...

A problem is that many C Dory owners want to run at 8 knots (9.2 mph), not 4 to 6 mph, and thus get far worse mileage than can be obtained at lower speeds.

Launching--a lot depends on how the trailer is set up. With the Load Rite trailers, which have target bunks, and I put slicks on these, we just drive on, the trailer, Marie hooks the strap on, and tightens it up--usually less than 3" from the bumper on the winch post. I keep the boat centered on the trailer, and Marie drives the truck out. It is more difficult to climb out of the 25, but we have a collapsable ladder. I then drive down the parking lot, bump the brakes, and the boat slides forward to the stop. We tighten the winch strap, put in the chain to the bow eye, put the two straps from the trailer to the transom and the one strap over the cockpit. We often load faster and easier than most 22's. I don't see a lot of difference. I have single handed the 25 launching with a 30' long RV. (In that case there were docks along side where I could board the boat.)

Gen set while running:--it is mounted on a bracket made of Starboard, (bolted on) which is on the port side of the splash well. I posted a photo of the bracket in the past, and will be doing a series of photos on the "improvements" (past and present) on Thataway. However, we rarely need to run the genes while running--even on 90*+ days--the breeze on the water is enough to keep us cool, with all windows open.
 
I single hand our 25 quite a bit. All it takes is a longer stern line; I actually just tie two together temporarily. That line goes to the stern cleat on whatever side has the dock. I run it up the cabin/bow rail side and over the anchor along with the bow line. I then place them into the bed of my P/U. Back down normally, push the boat off and take both lines in hand. Jump up onto the dock, pull the boat back, tie it off...done. It's not rocket science.

As regards water use, we carry an extra 6 gallon jug and use bottled water to cook/make coffee etc. Usually gallon bottles. The "shower" is very efficient; it's nothing more than what you'd find on your kitchen sink for rinsing dishes off. The Admiral usually doesn't wash her hair until we go to a marina, so showering is actually pretty efficient.

For longer trips, we also use solar showers as was noted above. Put them on the roof with a bungee, with the hose stuck into the window. That also gives us an additional 7.5 gallons of water (one 5 gallon unit & one 2.5 gallon currently). I "store" them in the dinghy.

I have thought of putting another water tank up front, under the V berth, but it's a big job with limited benefit return. Plus that adds another pump, water lines et al, and ruins the KISS mentality of these boats. If we end up keeping the boat once I'm retired, I will do it...but that's an "if".

We also use paper plates when feasible. The cheapo thin ones that smash down better; trash is an issue too, remember. We don't need water to drink. That's what beer is for... :wink: :beer
 
ken35216":aea97pbc said:
Where do you put your genset while running?

If the water is nice, I put it on a home-made shelf, in the splash well with the exhaust aimed rearward. It's nothing more than two pieces of Starboard screwed together which puts the Honda "level" and up/dry and out of the way. I have a home-made power cord ~6' long.

If the water is crappy, I put it in the cockpit, also aimed rearward, on our big RTIC cooler. We have a custom, third rail protecting the splash well and so I've never had the gen-set fall or get knocked off/over. A simple loop of small line thru the handle/rail makes sure.

Either way, the camper-back's either not up or the three aft panels are removed and the cabin door is always closed. This allows the gen-set to remain dry and the exhaust to escape. I have a new CO detector and replace it every 5 yrs. It has never activated. Nor have we ever smelled exhaust within the cabin. The closed door also eliminates much of the engine/gen-set noise.

It only takes about 20 min for the water to heat and it stays hot enough to shower for hours.
 
Micahbigsur,

Thanks for your input. My conclusion from all this is: I can make my fresh water last much longer if I focus on how we wash dishes. Right now we use no salt water to wash dishes.

As for showers.....although I have the genset and the hot water heater, and as much as I'd love to take hot "real" showers in the head (even trying hard to conserve), it's hard for me to imagine that I will be happy with how long my 20 gallon water tank will last if I did that. But I'll give it a try. One problem is gauging how much water I've used at any given point. The only way I can think of is to simply run out of water and thereby know that I used 18-20 gallons. But I am a-feared of ever running out of water :). Maybe I can do some sort of laborious bucket by bucket tank refill as a test.

As for launching/retrieving a 25 off a trailer.....I do it all the time single-handed without a dock. Is it touchy? You bet, but I have yet to have a serious problem. I'm not as old as some of you, but I am 74. IMO, the one thing you have to have is a welded ladder and platform on the front of the trailer so you can climb up to the bow while the boat is on the trailer. I use the engine at 1500 RPM in forward to insure the boat stays on the trailer while I climb up from the trailer to get into the cabin so I can ride with the boat as it slides off the trailer (it usually rolls right off as soon as I put the engine in neutral). Then I hook up to my mooring ball and dinghy back to take the truck and trailer off the ramp. (It's a little used private ramp, so I am able to leave the trailer there for the 20 minutes this all takes -- but with a 2nd person, it could all be done quickly).
 
localboy":2uswtqtn said:
ken35216":2uswtqtn said:
Where do you put your genset while running?

If the water is nice, I put it on a home-made shelf, in the splash well with the exhaust aimed rearward. It's nothing more than two pieces of Starboard screwed together which puts the Honda "level" and up/dry and out of the way. I have a home-made power cord ~6' long.

If the water is crappy, I put it in the cockpit, also aimed rearward, on our big RTIC cooler. We have a custom, third rail protecting the splash well and so I've never had the gen-set fall or get knocked off/over. A simple loop of small line thru the handle/rail makes sure.

Either way, the camper-back's either not up or the three aft panels are removed and the cabin door is always closed. This allows the gen-set to remain dry and the exhaust to escape. I have a new CO detector and replace it every 5 yrs. It has never activated. Nor have we ever smelled exhaust within the cabin. The closed door also eliminates much of the engine/gen-set noise.

It only takes about 20 min for the water to heat and it stays hot enough to shower for hours.

I live in the south and was thinking it might be nice to run the a/c while underway.
 
I'm located in Springfield, IL. You are welcome to jump aboard my CD22 for a test ride anytime before Oct 9 2019.

Will be out of it for a while due to knee replacement surgery.
 
Our main cruising area is fairly warm and when we moved down from a larger boat we gave up any idea of a hot, tank water shower, our 25 is an 03 and Dana filled the tank and then repeatedly filled a gallon jug in the galley sink. This is how we found out that we had 18 useable gallons in our 20 gallon tank. We do use sun showers and a 2.5 gallon can minimally do 2 people, that would be a lot of tank water. Our head is really jammed full of cruising storage so we took out the shower sump pump.
On this boat with a watermaker we are going to extend the heads shower hose back through the window to the swim step for bathing suit showers and engine flushing. I think I have mentioned before that with careful monitoring we get about 6 days from a full tank if we use the raw water foot pumps.
We really don't want to take our Honda generator because of the weight/benefit trade off, and having a large solar system that will run everything except the water heater.
 
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