Repower Time

So my final final answer after much hemming and hawing... I am going to stick with the 115.

While, I believe (apart from the marginal upfront cost) there is no material benefit to get the smaller engine, and I think the 140 would be better. I know the difference would be negligible, and many smarter folks than I are advocating the 115.

A few other things influenced my decision
1) Resale: it seems like the community prefers the 115, and that matters to me
2) when I asked the folks at the dealer, everyone said they liked the 115 hp more. When I asked why, the response was (paraphrasing) "I don't know, I just really like that engine". I put a lot of stock in that gut feeling by a pro and that was a bit of a clincher.
3) Safety: There is a non-zero chance friends and family will borrow boat, I don't want to have a safety discussion of how much throttle is too much.

There is a final point which is my wife told me to get the 115... so I guess the other points are actually erroneous.
 
UPDATE: Repower is now complete - ended up with a (white) Suzuki 115. I'm on hour 6 of the break in period so have only gotten to just south of 5k RPM and haven't gone full throttle. Speed at that rpm topped out at 21-23knots on GPS (it was a windy day with current). I suspect I'll be able to go in the high 20s flat out but not sure. If not I guess I'll adjust the prop from it's current 19. I also got hydraulic steering fitted.

I know folks will be curious and I hesitate to say but logically can't think why it isn't okay to share... All in, repower was just about $15k. In rough numbers, $11k for outboard, $500 for control, $1.5k for the steering and $2k in labor (~14 hours). The install genuinely looks like it came out of the factory and the shop filled the old holes with West Systems epoxy / seemed to do everything right.

Should note that I got a trade in for old engine, but really not much as I had totally messed the thing up. This new engine will be dealer serviced!

Thanks for everyone's input. This was a big deal to me - a lot of money and I didn't want to make the wrong choice!

The remaining question is if I extend the warranty from what it currently is (5 years) to 8 years.
 
I think you're going to love it. And why not post how much the repower costs? I've never understood why it had to be a secret. I think you got a fair deal, and quite possibly a great deal as I have heard 20k being the going rate up here. I still say there's a lot to like about the 140 as well. But, I also stand by the average user will not likely utilize the extra hp. Now, go out and enjoy that thing. I'm excited for you!
 
I too have never understood the secrecy around prices, but there ya go. As I got a bunch of different quotes, I feel comfortable with the cost. This place was thousands cheaper than anything else I could find, I really can't say enough good things about how they were to work with and the quality of the install.

For those in New England area, it's called Stateline Boatworks in Warren RI. They do Tohatsu, Honda and Suzuki. It's funny as a Yamaha dealer is next door (Warren / Bristol RI is a boatbuilding town, very cool cutting-edge boatbuilding happening around there - especially if you are into super high-end sailboats/ America's Cup type stuff).

Both dealers had been recommended to me as doing a very good job, but I found the folks at Stateline so easy to deal with and the price so good it made the choice easy for me (this is nothing against the Yamaha dealer, again, I hear good things about their work too).
 
Have taken a few trips on the boat now, including an overnight with my family to Cuttyhunk, MA (tiny island that is about a 33 mile trip for us each way).

Love the engine, we cruise at 23 knots if it's flat and 17 knots in the ocean on a fairly calm day with a little chop and some swell (realllly long period though so kinda dipped in and out on the little boat).

After the break in I was able to push her. Loaded with three people, stuff (but we pack light), a dinghy with outboard, water and 60% fuel I was able to hit 30 knots (34 mph). I won't lie though, wondering what a 140hp would do :).

Initial impressions of the boat (and c-dory 22 cruisers in general) Boat is very cool, a lot of livability in a really small package, and I can actually afford to fuel it. Also, I feel I use all 115 hp, and the hydraulic steering is a borderline must have.

I would say however, compared to a heavier built boat like a downeast type thing we see alot of around here, it's pretty uncomfortable in the open ocean at anything over 14 knots boatspeed.

Final thought (unrelated), I HATE the wallas stove/heater thing, sometimes it works, but not very fast, and I feel like it has its own personality. It's gotta/gonna go. Final, final thought, who the heck needs non-skid that grippy? I think I'm going to have to use kneepads to get the mooring... I'm not that old!

If those are my gripes though, this boat is pretty awesome and I'm a very happy customer.
 
cdoryfan":3e9frmec said:
I won't lie though, wondering what a 140hp would do :).
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From the numbers shared elsewhere almost no difference in top speed for the 115 vs 140 given the same conditions/similar propping. 34 MPH is the highest number I see anyone consistently report.
 
I doubt that you will find many conditions where any more than 30 knots is a safe speed for the C Dory 22. They begin to be a little "squirrelly" at over 30 knots. I know of one boat which put 150 on the transom, and was sorry afterward (The 150 weight is more than the 115/140 Suzuki.)

The non skid is a standard pattern found on many boats. There are some which are more aggressive. No problem for me, and I will be 88 in a couple of months.

The Wallas stove, if in good condition and all of the instructions are followed works well. It is a compromise, as many items are in 22 foot cruising boats. I have had one in all of our boats except the last 25, where we did induction burner cooking. Much cooler in Florida.

Enjoy the new motor, and it sounds as if you are getting a lot of boating in since it has been installed.
 
I was kinda joking about the 140, I’m very happy with the 115 but on a zero wind and no wake day, the boat felt like she would do 30 knots happily, I don’t want to run at wide open throttle though so will only rarely do it.

Regarding the wallas stove. I moved from a complicated sailboat with many systems to a c-dory because of the simplicity . The wallas strikes me as anything but, and against the entire ethos of the boat. I’m afraid I just don’t get it - also the thing being 3k blows my mind. But to each their own and I understand the appeal in general… it’s nice to be comfy.

All in all though, the boat is fantastic and I can’t think of anything I’d rather own/operate. I get why they are so popular and have a loyal following and am proud to be an owner.
 
cdoryfan":1erwsm4h said:
I was kinda joking about the 140, I’m very happy with the 115 but on a zero wind and no wake day, the boat felt like she would do 30 knots happily, I don’t want to run at wide open throttle though so will only rarely do it.
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My 22 will do over 30 mph on a 90hp motor when light. This is only for flat water and straight lines. Getting into the mid-30s on the 22 is playing with fire IMO.
 
The only reason I'd want more power than 90 hp on the CD 22 is to be able to move the boat at 25-30 mph when hauling enough gear for extended cruising and fishing without running full throttle and making a bunch of unwanted noise. Generally speaking, the 90 hp most of them have hanging off the back is a nice blend of performance and economy for the average user. The published fuel burn for the 140 hp engine is intriguing as at least on paper, is more fuel efficient than the 115 by some margin. It probably can't really be true, but online anecdotical posts suggest that fuel burn data is supported. Beats me.....doesn't make sense. I'd love new engines of any brand :-)
 
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