SO WHAT DID YOU DO WITH OR ON YOUR C-DORY TODAY??

I and sue launched at coronet bay friday 9/3 after picking up the new trailer from Les. Stayed there overnight then headed across to friday harbor. Starcraft Tom dinghied over the next day to say hi and we left with the destination being Princess Louisa. Made a few stops along the way. Hit Bedwell at the very worst time of year, Labor Day. No space, chaos, but still managed to have an okay evening. Stopped at Montaghue, and also had a very pleasant stay at Telegraph Harbor Marina. That was one of the best places we came across in the last two weeks. The food was good and reasonably priced, service was excellent. There are some places up there nowadays that aren't like that anymore. Nanaimo was a real disappointment. No place to tie up to make a grocery or restroom stop. Always the same story, go over to the public wharf. But most of the public wharfs up there have fishing boats and derelicts tied two and three deep. Stayed out at Newcastle instead. Went over to the Dinghy Dock Pub for dinner. Way overpriced for what you get. Newcastle has brand new restrooms and showers and they are really nice. Made our way up to Jervis Inlet. Made the mistake of stopping at Bathgate for fuel and groceries. My Garmin has the location for Egmont incorrect and calls Bathgate Egmont. Bathgate is not a friendly place. They seem to try to discourage you from stopping there. Then on to Princess Louisa. The doce filled up right behind us. And as usual, we were the smallest boat there. We had rain for a solid week so we holed up in Garden Bay for three days. We tried twice to get south to Gibsons but couldn't make it around the point because of high winds and waves. There were some really ugly standing waves so we turned back around and stayed twice and Fishermans' Marina in Garden Bay. Another really nice marina. And nice folks. Left there the 12th for Friday Harbor. Covered 90 miles in 5 hours. Amazing what following winds and seas can do for the ride. We are now drying out in the Best Western in Friday Harbor. Finally a decent priced meal and a real grocery store. Will spend the rest of the week going through the islands and exploring.
 
Preparing SeaDNA for sale. Yesterday, I took SeaDNA to Gary Estes and had the brakes worked on, the bearing repacked and a new trailer jack installed. The trailer is almost as good as new. Today, I picked the boat up and hauled it up to the factory in Ferndale to get some gel coat repair work done. Had a nice visit with Scott and left the boat in his capable hands. Probably will be done in a week or so. Then I have a little work to do to finish cleaning the inside and to put a nice coat or two of wax on her and she'll be ready for sale.
 
Working hard trying to get the CAT ready for trip to the CBGT at Oriental on Thursday and then the Outer Banks for a week after that.

Finally got the window covers installed (snaps and screws), easy but some of them didn't fit right (Thanks King Canvas).

Installing steps at cockpit sides to assist in boarding (will switch from side to side, made by Garelick).

Replacing port bilge pump, a Rule 1100, wouldn't you know the new one will not fit in the base of the old one! urg. Have tilted bow down on the trailer to let bilge dry, will clean the base mounting area and glue down with 4200. Probably just leave the old base there too, it's screwed down and is tight.

Anchor windlass is problematic. Intermittent, cuts out. Have replaced splices at the bow, suspect connections on the up/down switch. Voltage is there but I think corrosion is not letting sufficient current pass through.

Installing new antenna for Raymarine backup VHF radio Ray 254 (I think). Radio has been installed for a year with no antenna. Will work better with one... :roll:

Busy, one day left.

Charlie
 
Been busy learning how to repair gelcoat, fill screw holes, fill unwanted holes, fill dings and assorted polishing techniques. Since I can't make it up to Scott's seminar I bought the DVD and spent some time scouring the internet for videos and how to stuff. Quart of Spectrum ivory and a Spectrum blue patch kit in hand, I started cleaning up the C-Brat. So far it's been an experience. Mistakes made and recovered from, and ended up taking a little bit from every learning source. No wax for me. I used mold release sprayed on with a cheap Badger airbrush. Works great. Filled using surfboard epoxy which does not have problems with gelcoat. Just finished the most exposed portion and photos are in my album.

Left to go? I filled the Perko all around light quarter size hole that was damaged, removed the CB and VHF nylon mounts (replacement will be SS) and the next step is to finish sand and polish the top before adding my own new holes for the VHF mount and an LED all around light. Inside there were at least 15 holes in and around the dash and they're about ready for polish. Photos will be forthcoming.

Thank you Scott for the new decals. They weren't the 3D version that the previous mfg used, but they look great and the price was right.

Here's a couple of shots.

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Don
 
This Sat and Sunday I took the Tomcat out both days. It took awhile to get started yesterday - I had a run to do in the AM and then had to get the old numbers off, the new numbers and registration on, figure out a way to strap the boat to the trailer, put on the license plate, fuel up etc. Also had to wait for a guest. Bottom line, I didn't get on the water until about 3PM yesterday. Did a brief cruise and left the boat at Everette marina on the guess dock last night.

Went out again this AM and did a little half hearted trolling for salmon. I don't have down riggers on yet so it was cut plugs and banana weights today. No salmon but just to get the fishless "stink" off the boat, I stopped in Skunk Bay and caught a kelp greenling. Then we motored over to Port Ludlow for a nice brunch and returned to Everett. All-in-all a good weekend.
 
Today I went to Everett and made arrangements to put the Tomcat in dry storage near the boat launch. Then I drove to Bellingham to pick up my CD 22. I'd taken it there about 2 weeks ago to get some gel coat work done by the guys at the factory. Scott and his crew took good care of me and fixed a several cracks in the gel coat, one big rock chip and a bit of gel coat break out where the boat hits the trailer roller. SeaDNA is looking good thanks to their great work.

I had planned on having them also do some work on the interior but based on my available cash, I found it necessary to do the work myself (imagine that - doing work myself!). The main thing that needed to be done on the interior was to deal with the numerous floor penetrations created when the factory installed the cabinetry and the water system. As Thataway Bob has noted previously, the previous factory did the Decraguard interiors with galvanize L-brackets and screwed them into the floor without sealant or epoxy. That's the way my interior was done. So, while I've been meaning to fix this for about 2 years, the need to sell it motivated me to fix it and fix it right.

So this afternoon I got started. I removed all the L-brackets that connect the cabinetry to the floor. I took apart the cabinetry on the port side where the water tank is install and pulled the water tank to access the L-brackets underneath that. Following the procedures I learned here from Dr. Bob, I cleaned the floor and hull sides and drilled out all the floor penetrations. I then used a Dremel tool with a 1/2" grinding head to under cut the balsa. I cleaned everything out. To my surprise, even though the steel brackets were crusty and rusty, the balsa was in good shape once I got about a 1/4" from the center. Since the holes I cut out were about 5/8" in diameter and I further under cut 1/4" on all sides, I was able to get into clean and dry balsa in all cases. So far, I've done all the brackets in the cabinets under the sink and under the aft port seat. I also hit the holes associated with routing the water tubing from the tank to the pump. So far this is ..... wait for it.... 28 penetrations in the hull! Yes, the guys at the factory were hole happy back in 2003. Strange thing is that there were several holes just for clamps that hold the tubing that carries water from the tank to the foot pump. In most cases, those clamps could have been easily affixed to a horizontal surface instead of being attached to the floor.

I also stopped today at West Marine to pick up some West systems epoxy, hardener and silica for thickening. Tomorrow AM, I'll fill the holes I've drilled out so far and get started on the penetrations that are further forward. There shouldn't be too many more. When I'm all done, the interior will be better than when it was new.

A few comments on this:
1) I learned of this problem and how to solve it from excellent posts by Dr. Bob on Thataway. Now he's in poor health and I wanted to be yet another C-Brat who takes an opportunity to thank Bob for all that he has taught us. Thanks Bob! I would have never had the courage to drill into my hull without your good explanations and pictures. I know the repairs I am doing now will make the boat better than new. Thanks so much for your excellent training on this.
2) I will point out that these hull penetrations were done in 2003 back when the factory was a dealer and under ownership a few owners ago. Many here idolize that particular group of owners (me included). However, their QC and productions methods weren't perfect as this method of cabinetry install shows. Not a big issue as I'll have it fixed in the next few days. Nonetheless, I just felt a need to point out that each owner of the C-Dory brand over the past few years has had good points and bad ones.
3) IF this boat had the molded fiberglass interior that so many here complain about, this hull penetration problem would be a non-issue. My new-to-me TomCat has the molded interior and I see both good and bad aspects of it relative to the decraguard cabinetry.
4) I asked Scott Boysen where they get their stainless L-brackets. He was kind enough to give me a package at no cost so I could do my repairs. Also, I forgot to take the 5-pin flat to 6-pin round trailer electrical adapter with me from my Tomcat when I went to pick up the 22. Scott lent me one of those too. Scott and Triton are looking better and better to me each day.
 
Captains Cat":2dbkzh6n said:
Roger, I sure hope you're taking pictures. I'd like to see what's under the deck on my TC!

Charlie

Charlie,
This isn't on the TC but on the 22 that I'm preparing for sale. But I am taking some pictures to document the repairs. Funny how when I had the boat, I wasn't worried enough to fix it for my own use but when I'm about to sell, I want to make everything perfect. I assume the new owner will be or will become a C-Brat and I couldn't sell it in good conscience if I didn't fix what I knew was wrong.

As an aside for those with a 22 and the decraguard interior. If one wanted, you could move the water tank from under the port aft seat to the V-berth area and either
a) Create a full size cabinet under that seat (I know some have done this or:
b) Create a private spot for use of the portapotty. The latter would require i) a hinged or removable bar that connects the front and rear cabinet panels for when the seat cushion is on (or a slight re-design of the seat cushion so it retained the front panel. ii) a door or a curtain to curtain to cover the area under the seat cushion iii) A curtain that enclosed the area above the seat cushion while the potty was in use. and iv) The application of a privacy screen to the rear window (or have the curtain mentioned in iii go all the way around.
 
On my CD today.............I covered it with a tarp in 25 mph winds. what a giant PITA that exercise was. A friend helped me. He felt obligated as I take him fishing a lot during the summer. We finally got the tarp oriented in the right direction and floating in the wind. Just raised it up and let it drift over the boat. Then started hooking up bungees.

This is the most sorrowful day for me as it puts a giant stamp on the fact that my boating is over until early next May.
That is the one big negative about living in the north country.
Hopefully time will pass by soon and the tarp will be coming off again.
 
Not doing a darn thing with the boat.... :cry: While TD-16 runs up the East Coast bringing lots of rain to the outer banks where we are. The boat sits in the yard at Manteo Marine, I plan to put it in up around Kitty Hawk, probably on Friday after the storm passes and hopefully have two good fishing days to take out the crowd here in the house.
 
Toby and I and the Comfy Dory just returned Saturday the 25th from a full week on the west coast of Florida. We trailered the boat across the state on Sat. the 18th and met Bob Bigelow's brother David at Bob's house. David rode to the launch @ Punta Rassa with us and then took our truck and trailer back to Bob's house for the week. Bob was out of town and had made arrangements with his brother to help us.
We had a great week and good weather except for 15-20 mph winds the entire time. Had to do a little hiding behind islands to escape that! Water was beautiful and I caught several fish for supper. Spanish Mackeral and Speckeled Trout. We had a great time on Gasparilla Island and rented a golf cart from Boca Grande Marina to go to the south end of the island to see the lighthouse and museum and then a great lunch on the gulfside and a hour or so scooting around the old town of Boca Grande. If you ever get the chance to go there, do not miss going into the Gasparilla Museum which is housed in Whidden's Marina. It is like a step back in time. The two ladies that run the museum and marina are the granddaughters of the Mr. Whidden who started the marina around the turn of the century. Old clapboard siding inside and out and not much paint left on the walls. Many old artifacts including (2) mahogany fighting chairs built in the 20's and certified to have been fished out of by Hemmingway and Zane Gray.
We also really enjoyed spending 2 days on the beach on the Gulf side of Cayo Costa Island. It is a state park and undeveloped, but there is a building for the Rangers on the inside and there is a tram that will take folks over the gulf side. The beach was almost deserted on the 2 weekdays that we went and because of fewer people, the shelling was much better than on Sanibel Island.
We came down the gulf side on Saturday through some pretty dicey conditions and were met at Punta Rassa by Bob Bigelow with the truck and trailer. We took him back to his house and met his lovely wife Dawn and chatted for awhile while I prepped the boat to trailer back across the state. I can't say enough about the kindness and hospitality of Bob and Dawn. Bob went out of his way to help us with the truck and trailer and he doesn't even own a C-Dory! He has apparently been following the C-Brats site for awhile and has even made some friends...I think he said with Byrdman from Tenn. Anyway...a Great Guy!
It looks like we picked the right week to go since our weather has closed in with the coming of this latest Tropical Storm from the south. We are already planning on a trip back to that coast next summer.

Tad
 
As I mentioned, I've been working to get my 22 ready for sale. Since the cabinetry was installed the typical factory way with L-brackets into the floor an penetrations into the balsa core, I felt it necessary to repair that using the procedures detailed previously by Dr. Bob (Thataway). So, I pulled out the shelving under the sink, disassembled the cabinetry under the aft dinette chair and pulled out the water tank. I then took out all the hardware that was attached to the floor. Wherever there was a screw into the floor, I drilled it out with a 5/8" bit. This was enough to get me into clean balsa in all cases. Since there are two screws on every L-bracket, I used a dremel tool with a small grinding bit to remove the material between the two holes to create an oval. Here's an image of some of the holes. This shows the area where the foot pump was installed.
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After drilling the holes, I undercut the balsa core using a 5/8 grinder bit.
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Then it was time to get to work to fill the holes. Here's the items in the repair kit.
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First I mixed up some liquid epoxy. Since the floor slopes, it's not possible to fill the holes to the top with liquid epoxy. One solution is to thicken the epoxy with silica (other other materials) and then scoop it into the holes. The problem with this can be getting the thick material into the holes without air pockets, especially when you make the epoxy about the thickness of peanut butter. My solution was to first fill the holes a little shy of the undercut with liquid epoxy so that I was sure I get good flow into the balsa core. After that hardened, I came back with thickened epoxy to fill the remainder of the holes. For the latter, I taped out around the holes with painters tape and I smoothed the epoxy using the edge of a mixing stick. Here's an image of that process.

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After the epoxy dried, here's what the final product looks like (tape still there and not yet painted over). This is the area under the water tank which is under the aft dinette seat.

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Now I need to deal with the penetrations forward of the sink on the starboard side (under the helm seat) and forward of the aft dinette seat on the port side. That's a project for Sunday.
 
Moxieabs":2uy8a2sv said:
Nice job Roger!
Will the holes in the stainless steel L-brackets line-up wth the epoxy filled areas of the original brackets?

Yes - the stainless brackets are exactly the same size/pattern as the crusty galvanized ones I removed.
 
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