Tsunami

El and Bill

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As one of the site's resident geologists, I simply must make some comments about tsunami. We are all horrified by the events of the past week in the Indian Ocean. We naturally, as people who travel on water and many of us living and using coastal waters, wonder if it could happen here. The geological answer is YES! And, not only could happen, but has happened many times in the geologic past along the Atlantic, Pacific and Gulf coasts. They are rare along any one shore, in spans of human lifetimes, but possible.

The seism in Aceh was caused by slippage along the margin of the Indian Plate. Along the California coast, the Pacific plate is grinding northwesterly beside the western edge of the America's plate, which itself is moving westerly about as fast as your fingernail is growing. The San Andreas is the most obvious of these major faults, side-slipping along the plate boundaries. Ordinarily, side-slipping (or lateral) faults rarely generate tsunamis, although they are famous for major temblors. However, the tsunami last week was generated by a fault slippage along a zone of strong lateral motion. Could a major quake in CA generate a tsunami? Definitely, and most likely from the subsea "landslides," generated by the earthquake, creating large oceanic waves.

Along the Oregon/Washington coast, the Juan de Fuca plate is grinding its way easterly, shoving itself under the westerly moving Americas plate. This is a head-on collision between plates, and the type most often associated with tsunamis. Large tsunamis have drowned the coastlines of these states in recent geologic time, and small tsunamis in the memories of some C-Brats who have grown up on these coasts.

Alaska is seismically active and has, in this century suffered a number of tsunamis, the most recent in Lituya Bay where an earthquake caused the collapse of a mountain into the Bay, generating massive waves.

Our (and Canada's) entire Pacific coast could suffer tsunamis generated as far away as Japan -- Hawaii has been nailed by such events.

The East Coast has in recent geologic times had tsunamis hundreds of feet high, with water flooding inland hundreds of miles across the coastal plain from New York to Florida. These tsunamis were likely generated by earthquakes, and subsequent landslides, in the Canary and Azore Islands.

The Gulf Coast is less likely to suffer tsunami, but earthquakes generated along the island arcs of the Caribbean could cause a seismic wave.

A tsunami travels at hundreds of miles an hour across deep ocean, and may be no more than a foot or two high – virtually undistinguished from normal ocean waves. But the energy incorporated in that speed is transformed into building a lofty wave when the tsunami is slowed by friction against the shallowing sea floor as it approaches land. So, a distant earthquake may, and does, have a devastating effect within a few hours of an earthquake thousands of miles from your shore. Hence, warning time is reduced and only those areas that have an in-place set of sirens, clearly marked tsunami escape routes, and an informed populace have a chance to escape the waves.

What about us on the coast or on our boats? Be aware, that any major earthquake with a near-shore or submarine epicenter can generate a tsunami. If you live on a coast, know the best route inland. And, most importantly, three simple bits of knowledge that might have saved thousands of lives last week:

1. As the seismic sea wave approaches a coast, and builds to lofty heights, the sea will withdraw from the shore! To build the wave, water flows out from land and in from sea. If you are near the shore or on the beach, and suddenly the water level begins to drop (obviously not just the normal tide drop), git outa there. Head up hill as fast as your car or feet can carry you. Many of the victims last week, ran to the shore – in curiosity or to pick up the flopping fish in what had been a bay. Some even went to secure their boats. Most were swept away by the tsunami.

2. If you are on your boat, say fishing just off shore, and you either hear the alert about a tsunami’s imminent approach or see the sudden lowering of sea level along the shore, head immediately to deep water. That will be outside the wave-buildup zone and be safe. Those along the Gulf, and large areas of the Atlantic coast, won’t have this option since shallow water may extend well offshore down the continental shelf. But, in New England, and most all the west coast, you can in our C-Dorys get into water thousands of feet deep in short order by simply heading seaward at top speed. Some tourists were saved last week when their fishing trips departed just before the tsunami and they were already in deep water.

3. Tsunamis come in multiples! The first wave is seldom the largest, and there may be significant time (hours) between the arrival of waves. The second and third are usually the largest (by far) and a sequence of waves may be a dozen or more. Many of the dead last week survived the first wave, ran back to the shore to look for survivors, and were swept away themselves by the following larger waves.

Sorry to be so lengthy, but assume those not interested, would skip ahead and the others who might not have known how to protect themselves and others from tsunamis might benefit.
 
Very interesting, even for us SoCal folk. A long time close friend lives on a bluff in Mukilteo overlooking the sound. As a quadripelegic, he's pretty fatalistic about his chances in any major event. Even the frequent power outages those folk have up there cause difficulty for him.

Thanks, Bill. With your permission I'd like to forward the text to a few coasties like him.
 
Bill,

Thank you, it's very well put. Those same ideas of escape are practised here on a regular basis, minus the deep water in boats.

Tim
 
Thanks for your very informative and interesting dissertation. You must have a blast studying all the diverse land forms on your excursions. I took an oceanography course in college a hundred years ago (which, of course in geologic time is nothing!) and found it fascinating. My professor at the U of MN had been educated at Scripps Oceanographic Institute in La Jolla and his specialty was plate tectonics. He said he would not live in California since he felt they were overdue for the Big One. He must've been serious about it for having moved all the way to Minneapolis.
Al
 
Tim -
We recall the "tour" you gave us of the Cannon Beach area and your discussion of seeing the tsunami there and the steps taken by the local authorities to inform your town folks. It was that time together, and your information about the tsunami, that made El and I think we should post something about sea waves on this site. So many C-Brats are live along vulnerable coasts and may not have the information given to your town folk.
Best wishes and Happy New Year to you folks.
 
El and Bill, Excellent post. One of the best descriptions of tsunami generation and advice for us coastal dwellers that I have seen. As an earth science major in the late 60's, the lecture on Lituya Bay and it's history of multiple tsunamis both intrigued and scared the heck out of me. I think that this was intensified by my experience of the summer of 1960. We took a family vacation to Yellowstone. This was 10 months after the earthquake there generated a massive landslide and huge wave that raced across Hebgen Lake. It was hard for me to understand how something so powerful and devastating could happen. Seeing the damage first hand was chilling. But, both of these earthquake generated events pale in comparison to the events of the last week. I think that it is nearly impossible for anyone to grasp the enormity of this disaster.

I thank you for taking the time to share your vast knowledge. I admire you both for having an invigorating thirst for learning and for your love of sharing your experiences. Robbi
 
One of the many things my father shared with us from living on the water was the old adage, "Never turn your back to the sea". I think I'll call him up and make a small change to that saying, "Unless you are running like hell to get away from it!"
 
Fantastic post, Bill - what a great read while sipping my morning latte... :lol:

The East Coast has in recent geologic times had tsunamis hundreds of feet high, with water flooding inland hundreds of miles across the coastal plain from New York to Florida. These tsunamis were likely generated by earthquakes, and subsequent landslides, in the Canary and Azore Islands.

I've read a couple articles in the past week about a possible "mega-tsumani" should the Cumbre Vieja volcano on the island of La Palma in this region slip into the sea - these articles paint a devastating picture. Here's a PDF from one of your colleagues that seems to keep a more factual than hysterical perspective on the issue, but still...should it happen, it sounds like the loss of life would dwarf any event in modern times.
 
A most excellent bit of info Bill.
DaNag, after carefully working out the formulas in the Ward and Day article, I came up with a much simpler solution....run like hell
 
If any of you ever visit Kodiak, be sure to stop in the Baranof Museum. It has many images of the 1964 tsunami damage. Basically, the town of Kodiak was hammered, and many other island villages were destroyed. We have an alarm system here and it is something that we all take seriously, even more so after this latest sad event. Those who live in coastal areas should have a cooler packed with a week's survival items that can be thrown in the truck when the alarm goes off. There may not be drinking water for many days. Warm clothes, MRE's, flashlights, use your imagination.
Rick
 
I finally received an e-mail from my cousin who is in Sri Lanka. On the morning of the Tsunami she had gone for a run on the beach and considered a swim (she participates in Triathalon Iron Man/ Iron Woman competitions in her spare time) when she saw the first water surge come in. In her words, "It was quite odd because there was a rock about 300 meters out from the beach that we swam out to the day before and the surge fully covered the rock and then sucked back to the point where the base of this 40 foot rock was exposed. It was full moon and one of the Australians with us yelled, "looks like a king tide" and the local fisherman said "No, we haven't ever seen anything like this in our lives". We helped the fishermen rescue a boat which had broken loose at the high tide mark. We should have listened to one of the 16 year olds present who said, "earthquake or something causing water displacement". The next surge came about 15 minutes later rushing towards the two story houses we were staying in. We grabbed our shoes and got upstairs. There were 29 people at this location including 4 over 70 years old and 6 kids, fortunately we all survived with only a few minor cuts. The water crashed thru the downstairs ripping off doors, glass shattering, belongings from downstairs sucked out etc. After the water receded we hastily evacuated by two vehicles to high ground, a temple about 2 km away and on a hill. I was able to text message a friend in Singapore and she informed me of the earthquake off Sumatra. We spent the next 10 hours at the temple".
 
With the recent tsunami in Samoa, I thought it would be a good idea to bring this thread back to the top for those interested.

Those cruising the Pacific coast of North America have a possibility of experiencing a tsunami at any time, and this tale gives an idea of the event, what you might witness and an opportunity to consider steps one might prethink to take if you are in this situation.

The Am. Great Loop Association has a post from sailors who witnessed the tsunami that devastated Samoa following a major earthquake there. Here is a brief excerpt and the link to read it all.

all hell started breaking loose! Our boat was on the move! My first
reaction was to start the engine and dash up on deck to see what was
going on. I witnessed the water around us was rapidly dropping!
Rapidly! In a blink of an eye, we were on the bottom and the boat was
falling away from the dock! Three of our big docklines popped and we
fell right over into the mud - the entire basin we had been floating in
only moments ago had completely drained! People were screaming!


http://groups.google.com/group/AGLCA/br ... 74db?hl=en
 
Bill, you talk about heading the C-Dory into deep water. I have to run hard out of newport oregon to reach water 300 feet deep in less than an hour and a half or so. What do you call "deep" water and what does it take to be safe after you first sense the ocean falling? I don't have a good idea of how much time is available after we sense the falling ocean, but really deep water is a couple hours away at least, even for a C-Dory if you are off the Oregon coast.
 
Here's the full story - sorry, didn't realize you have to be a member of AGLA to open the clickable site:

Subject: Samoa Earthquake & Tsunami!
Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 8:33 PM

This morning (six hrs ago) we were shaken awake by an earthquake which seemed to have no end! We were aboard our vessel and tied side-to a big concrete dock in the heart of Pago Pago, American Samoa. And after living up & down the California coast, I knew this was no minor tremor.

After the rude awakening, my wife & I walked across the dock and chatted
with a few of our fellow sailors, one of whom said that he's just done
a Google search on "recent earthquakes" and said that it measured-in at
8.1 and the epicenter was only 120 miles distant.

We returned to our vessel and I turned on our laptop and searched the
same website. Sure enough there it was... "8.1 earthquake - American
Samoa - 20 minutes ago". I clicked on the "Show Map" option and noticed
the epicenter was located south west of Pago Pago... which is located
on the southern side of the island.

Just as I was considering the ramifications of that little fact... all
hell started breaking loose! Our boat was on the move! My first
reaction was to start the engine and dash up on deck to see what was
going on. I witnessed the water around us was rapidly dropping!
Rapidly! In a blink of an eye, we were on the bottom and the boat was
falling away from the dock! Three of our big docklines popped and we
fell right over into the mud - the entire basin we had been floating in
only moments ago had completely drained! People were screaming!

Next - the water came flooding back in at an even more alarming rate
and the next thing I knew we were floating directly above the dock!
Over the concrete slab and drifting toward a young lady we knew (from
another boat) who was desperately hugging a power pole and up to her
chin in swirling water! I told my wife to cut the two remaining dock lines
with our serrated bread knife and to be quick about it!

Right as I put the boat into gear, we were somehow washed back off the
dock and into the basin as I advance to full throttle and we
accelerated through a floating debris field of floating docks, fuel
drums, sinking boats, a shipping container and a barnicle encrusted
wreck all of which were spinning in the torrent of rapidly dropping sea
level. It was absolute mayhem! As we steered out toward the deep water
in the center of the harbor I looked over my shouder and saw what
appeared to be a waterfall pouring off the dock and shore beyond. Not
one of the dozen vessels remai ned at the dock. All were underway in a
matter of seconds... with or without crews aboard.

We motored around in the middle of the harbor watching the waves of
floods & ebbs while wondering about after-shocks and our fellow
cruising sailors. As we passed one of our neighbors she shouted to us
that her husband had been washed off the dock as they were trying to
get away. She was alone and seriously concerned. Other boats broke free
from their moorings and anchors in the initial seismic waves and many
were driven ashore, or driven under by loose tuna boats.

After about three hours, we felt it was finally safe enough to return
to the dock. All we had were lengths of old line and we were short a
couple fenders. We were the first to go in and we started un-tangling
lines and helping others get back along side the concrete dock. All of
the store-fronts along the water are destroyed, roving mobs of kids can
be seen looting, the fence around the dock is gone, every boat on
stands in a nearby boatyard were washed away. Big fishing boats are now in parking lots across the street. Absolute destruction is seen
everywhere along the shore.

Phones and power are down but we got back online right away and I
immediately went back to the recent earthquakes website to see if
things have been calming down in the center of the earth. A number of
aftershocks as strong as 6.0 have been reco rded over the past few
hours - but thankfully no more wave action has been noticed. We've been
making Skype calls to our families and letting others use the computer
as well to phone home.

Online news reports say that the earthquake lasted three minutes and
the highest flood rose 25 ft above normal! There are 20 confirmed
deaths... including our neighbor who was swept off the dock. Most
fatalities occured in and around the harbor where we live. Boats are
battered and nerves are fried. One friend wound-up on his boat nearly
1000 feet away from the water after breaking from his anchor and
sailing right down Main St. taking power & telephone wires down with
his mast! Some people lost everything... including their lives. We came
through remarkably well with only minor dammage sustained to our toe
rail when the dock lines parted and to our fender basket which was the
only point of contact with that drifting wreck. I never felt any
jarring loads while we were hurtling around above & below the concrete
dock, so I believe our hull, keel & rudder suffered no damage from the
wildest boat ride I've ever been on.

We're all okay... and very lucky.

And we've adopted a tiny kitten. Her name is Lucky.

And that's the way it is.
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--
Robert Elder
Oceanographic Systems Laboratory
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution
 
These two personal tales certainly underline the hazard of tsunamis and the importance of some pre-knowledge - one of the basic ideas of Deep Survival is to have an understanding of what is happening to you (when you are suddenly lost, caught in a storm or tsunami, etc) - the other basic idea is (having pre-thought the possible event) to have pre-thought the actions to take in order to survive the event.

Heading to deep water in your boat to avoid the surge - if you are close enough and have sufficient time - is a good action.

How deep is a tough question - there are many factors in that decision - size of quake and consequent tsunami height - configuration of the shore and the coast (a semicircular cove facing the direction from which the tsunami is coming is a magnifier) - angle of slope below the sea - most folks I've read say at least 300 feet depth, but the more the better.
 
I only know what I read on Tsunami (harbor wave) but two things are clear from the 2004 Sumatra Tsunami... There have been reports on the boating groups from boaters on or near Phu Ket... A search of the web will trun these up

The boaters who had moved their boats out of the harbor between the initial surge and the train of larger waves that came about 10 minutes later, even a few hundreds of feet off the coast, suffered little or no additional damage... The water was not likely that deep, but they were just past the initial drop off of the bottom and the wave lifted them up and spun them around a bit... But after it passed and touched the rising bottom in the harbor it suddenly reared up into the air.. The one boat was diving for lobster/conch in less than a 100 feet of water and was about a mile off shore and did not know anything had happened until they heard boat horns and looked towards the shoreline and saw the wave... Another diver was in the water when he felt a strong current and the water silted up instantly but other than that he was fine... Every additional foot of depth is protective...

The other thing clear from Phu Ket is that those who saw the water sucked out of the harbor and went to higher ground right then without waiting to see what was going to happen were unscathed... Those who waited around to watch paid with their lives...

Given that is now common knowledge I cannot believe anyone, especially any boater, who saw the water level suddenly surge in and then suck out of the harbor would stand around watching - tides do not move that fast... King Tide my arse...
 
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