windless or windlass? Installation on a 19' Angler

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Is it possible and advisable to install a windless/windlass on a 19' Angler. I'm a wanabe C-Dory owner and I've got some questions. I need a boat that I can tow and the 19' is the max. I'm also wondering about the seating and how it might be re-configured in the aft cockpit area. It seems like the 19 doesn't really have a comfortable aft area for fishermen to sit and watch their poles. The boat I'm looking at has the floor boards removed because the current owner says they rattle too much! Also why would c-dory put 2-50 gallon gas tanks on a 19? Wouldn't 2 25's or 1-50 be sufficient with a 90hp Honda?

I'm throwing a lot out there but being a want-to-be C-Dory owner I need some good answers.

So...thanks for all of your input>>>>The Kingfish
 
Yes you can add a windlass to the 19..without a worry.

If the floorboards rattle...shime them.

There are many different aftermarket products out there...to make the seating arrangement to suit your needs.

And no C-Dory has never put 2 - 50gal fuel tanks on a 19 or the 22 to my knowledge. There again....you may be looking at an aftermarket add on by the present owner. He may have been way up stream from his favorite fishing hole and needed the added range... .:wink and with that much fuel tankage, I can't see how you would have much cockpit area left. The 19 rear facing seats should make for a very nice arrangement.
 
I have a 19' C-Dory and I think the fuel tank holds 24 gals. Max. There are two. I never carry more than about 18-20 gals. Uses more fuel to carry the weight. It is not comfortable to fish a 19'er with more than two, but three is ok. No more.
I have a rear bench seat that is very comfortable to watch poles from. I like to have weight forward when traveling.
SG
 
As noted, yes on the windlass. You can re-configure the floorboards--not a problem. I agree, I doubt that the boat has two 50 gallon tanks--more like 18 to 24 gallons. I saw one 22 with a custom aluminum tank which held about 60 gallons, and that took up all of the space under the splash well.

Not sure why you can only tow 19 feet. Weight wise the 22 angler is not much more, and has a larger cockpit.

You can re-configure seats anyway that you want. If you want to put in portable chairs, with fishing rod gimble mount--that is possible. If the floor is available, you might even be able to permantly install a couple of real fishing chairs. Many of us just sit on coolers or fold up chairs in the cockpit.
 
The difference in weight between the 19, 22 angler and 22 cruiser is very little. According to factory spec: 19: 1650 lbs dry weight, 22 angler 1700 dry weight, and C Dory 22 cruiser at 1925. The amount of fuel and gear will more than make up the difference between 50lb difference between the 19 and 22. (Assuming that the factory specs are correct). Using an aluminum trailer will cut a number of lbs off. Same with the way the boat is rigged and even the engine (for example if you want light--use the Evinrude E-tec. So weight should not be a factor between the 22 angler and 19.
 
Bob, appreciate your comments and logic (as always) spot on. A key set of factors for me.

The C-Dory website in the specs part of the 2 boats list the "average towing weight" of the 19 Angler at 3000 and the 22 Angler at 4100 lbs. Definitely have to take this with a grain of salt, so to speak. But I figure that +/- a few hundred lbs, the 3500 cutoff for me firts the 19. I suspect both figures are optimistic, most of the 22's list here (yes cruisers) come in around 4500, hopefully a minimally equipped 19 can stay below 3500 ( I use light rods and reels :wink ). I'd rather have the 22 Angler, but can't handle the weight without a new vehicle, a few years away, and my boatless critical situation borders on torture.

Anyone with towing weight of a 19 would be greatly appreciated.
 
For cockpit seating in my 22 angler I use 2 of the fold up ss westmarine thick padded white boat chairs. Garelick nock offs I think. They fold up and store and ride well against the gunnels with just a bungee and a sun slip cover I made up. If you are camping you can pull them out for luxury in camp. Very stable and comfortable and on sale around $100 ea.
 
If you're pushing the tow limits with a boat/trailer combo, you can get some relief or extra capacity by using a load equalizing hitch. Would tow a lot better, anyway, the stopping distances wouldn't be affected.

Dual disc brakes with electric over hydraulic actuators with an intelligent adjustable brake activation system in the vehicle would help with the braking.

The extra money spent on these improvements would be less than trading in a smaller boat for a bigger one later, I'd bet!

If quite a few C-Dory experienced folks are trying to talk you into a 22 over a smaller C-Dory, there must be some sound reasoning behind it.

Joe. :teeth :thup
 
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