Guns on Boats

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Foggy

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'Guns on Boats' could prompt some interesting comments.

Think I start a new thread.

Why anyone would want to (try to) place a behemoth gun safe
on a boat (in my price range) is anyones guess. Now having a
firearm on a boat is a different matter and may yield some
interesting discussion.

For those who would do so, is it because

1. you live in fear?
2. you boat in areas maybe you shouldn't?
3. you shoot fish?
4. you enjoy shooting clay pigeons over water?
(you don't need a boat for this)
5. It gives you peace of mind or a false sense of
protection (unless you are highly proficient,
well trained and very competent)?

So there's my first shot. Who did I hit?

Aye.
 
I think you should move this post to Facebook. Let's keep this about boats! My feelings are no one should respond to this post one way or another.
 
Fairbro":1450jrqt said:
I think you should move this post to Facebook. Let's keep this about boats! My feelings are no one should respond to this post one way or another.
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You were hit. Sorry 'bout that.

It's more about boats than another topic "Gun safe".
And, I don't do Facebook.

Aye.
 
I think if I were traveling in Alaskan waters I would carry a gun when traveling short walks to hot springs etc. I don't think I would spring for a safe. I liked responding to this thread interesting topic Bro.
D.D.
 
I think a nice 50 cal on the front deck would do . What I think the member is asking is whether one should or will carry on our cd boats ?
 
I carry for my family, my friends and my community. I am proficient. You wont know I'm armed. I drove to launch my boat and stopped to get fuel in route. When I get to the boat ramp, it will not be left unattended in my vehicle, so yes, I carry on my boat. It will stay holstered and will remain there until I get back home, god willing.

Now, I don't know you, so I'll assume when you say "there's my first shot" your intentions were not to incite a hateful discussion on an otherwise peaceful site. Also, you were not trying to belittle Gary and his attempt to quell an argument.

I've spent the last 18 years defending your rights. All of them, so if you choose to carry or not that's your choice. You also can exercise freedom of speech, right here on this website if you choose.

I will ask nicely though, that you do so in a manner that is polite.

Balls in your court champ.

V/r
John Kassik (Sheepdog)

http://mwkworks.com/onsheepwolvesandsheepdogs.html
 
This post does not belong on this site. If you were serious about guns on boats that would be one thing. Your snarky initial comments indicate other.

Fred
 
Huh? I always carry me a gun so's I kin shoot me a bad guy. In fact, I hunt bad guys out on the Lake. They call me the Lake Powell bad guy hunter. I got me a high speed boat with maybe a thousand HP's. An I got half dozen wepons so's I don't hafta reload. I just grab the next 'un an' start shootin' away. That's why they ain't none 'O them there skunks out there an' you kin asure yer litle ladie that they is gon' be safe out thar cuz 'O meuns. An I aly's have my Bible and mah Rebel flag close to han'.

Or, I could just say, I always carry a small arm when I'm out in the back country by boat, jeep or hiking. I have used it to signal once and that one time was worth it. Fortunately, I have the constitutional right to own and bear arms the same way I exercise my right to vote, and that alone is a reason for all Americans to learn gun skills and to own at least one self defense weapon.
 
For those who took my initial comments the wrong way
"to incite a hateful discussion", I apologize, especially
in today's climate.

You are correct in that one cannot receive the intended, or
entire, meaning from reading words alone. Without hearing
tone of voice or observing body language with the words, the
entire meaning is frequently misinterpreted. This is not just
an opinion.

"Firing the first shot" and "you were hit" were intended to be
MANNERS OF SPEECH ONLY being related to the topic of firearms.
Not threatening, disrespectful or inciteful. Only a style of expression
to stimulate a discussion on this controversial topic, which it seems
to be.

Aye.
 
Foggy":26epdhrr said:
For those who took my initial comments the wrong way
"to incite a hateful discussion", I apologize, especially
in today's climate.

You are correct in that one cannot receive the intended, or
entire, meaning from reading words alone. Without hearing
tone of voice or observing body language with the words, the
entire meaning is frequently misinterpreted. This is not just
an opinion.

"Firing the first shot" and "you were hit" were intended to be
MANNERS OF SPEECH ONLY being related to the topic of firearms.
Not threatening, disrespectful or inciteful. Only a style of expression
to stimulate a discussion on this controversial topic, which it seems
to be.


Aye.
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I do not go any where without a GUN! & I do shoot fish! :wink:
 



I do not go any where without a GUN! & I do shoot fish! :wink:[/quote]

Do you boat locally or internationally? What would you do if you wanted
to take your boat from AK to Canada?

Aye.
 
We did not carry a firearm on the boat on our several trips up the Passage to Alaska (and I am a former NRA handgun instructor and have a concealed gun carry permit). Canada is another story.
I only carried in US when small game hunting with a light firearm for birds and was in bear country and my coat might cover my .357 pistol.
On Alaska trips we carried bear spray and always cleared with customs and carried spray when ashore in woods or anchored near shore. Never needed it, although got the heart beating when huge scratching on boat anchored at night in the north -- turned out to be a Great Blue Heron landing for a night roost on the roof.
 
There's nothing inappropriate about discussing if and when guns might be appropriate safety equipment on boats. In most respects I am a bleeding heart liberal; but we liberals don't help our cause by disparaging people who carry firearms for self-protection. Whether that self-protection is in a rural or urban setting.

I have been on a number of kayaking trips in remote areas, where (IMHO) it would have been foolish to not bring along a rifle or shotgun--or at least a can of bear spray. And when I lived in SE Alaska, I found that a .22 could be a lot more effective than a club for dispatching large halibut.

There is an amazing book called Three Years in a 12-foot Boat (https://www.amazon.com/Three-Years-Twelve-Foot-Boat-Stephen/dp/0966933737) that is the true story of a guy who took his tiny homemade sailboat from the headwaters of the Yellowstone, down the Missouri, down the Mississippi to New Orleans, where he got a ride on a Norwegian Freighter ...

After going through the Panama Canal and sailing down the Pacific Coast to Columbia, he and his boat got a ride over the mountains to the upper reaches of the Orinoco ... way too much to tell here, you gotta read this book; but he eventually wound up in Cuba, before sailing across the Florida Straight, back to the U.S.

For much of his trip, Stephen Ladd--a liberal land use planner from Seattle--carried a .38 revolver. And on at least one occasion I think it may have saved his life. And the threat didn't come from wildlife.

My point is, like all of the other safety gear that the competent, independent people in this forum discuss and carry in the spirit of being prepared for whatever may come along, guns can have a place. I probably won't feel a need to bring one along on my trip to the San Juan Islands next month. But for a leisurely trip up the Inside Passage to Juneau, I would definitely consider filling out the appropriate paperwork to bring a long gun across the border.
 
Personally I really don't understand people taking the heat about Foggy's post. My vote is to let the site administrator handle site content. Self appointed deputies I find annoying, but that's just me. I'm a veteran too but I don't know if by getting sent to Vietnam I was defending everyone's civil rights. I saw no argument here. The balls in your court champ comment seemed provoking. Just my opinion. As you were.
D.D.
 
From my experience on this site controversial/political topics can quickly get out of hand.
I have always loved the basic tenet of this site "just be nice" works so well and is self policing. Most times when we head down these roads it does not end well.

Fred
 
What a bunch of sensitive, little, precious, soft, sweet, delicate, dainty, brittle, people we've become when a word like "gun" is printed or said in our society.
This is the beginning of the end of a once great and powerful nation.

You cant even write freely without feeling like youre going to hurt someones feelings and you should be shunned for speaking your mind?
If you dont have something positive to add then just dont say something at all?
 
You are making my point. I am a NRA member, have a cancelled weapons permit and believe dearly in the second amendment. I also believe dearly in this site and these topics belong somewhere else.

Fred
 
I sort of live by this credo. I MAY have a gun...I MAY not. I'm not saying...

Why give out that information? I think anyone "open carrying" (it's legal in WA Sate) is giving away any tactical advantage they may have. The element of surprise is always good. Just ask the Japanese.

Aloha...



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