Marinaut Update

I just swapped emails with Ricardo the other day.

Covid put a pretty big damper on things for him, but they have one out of the mold and are trying to get going again.

He's purposely laying low until they're in production - doesn't want to say much or promise anything until they're ready.

Just sold my Nordic, and will possibly be looking into a C-Dory or Marinaut next year. I'm seriously considering one if the timing is right.
 
Ricardo called my home several months ago. We were not able to answer the the calls, but he stated that he was delivering a new boat to Foley, Alabama and would bring it by our house, if we were home, to look at. We are only a few hundred yards off one of the major routes across Perdido Bay from Florida to Alabama.
 
It has been a-while since I have been out in it. I am going to repower it and upgrade the electronics then start using it on the Columbia and Snake Rivers. The 50hp is not big enough for the Gorge winds and river current with three people and gear on board.
 
Hey Dave, Good to see you still check in once in a while. Great to hear from you. Been a spell since Sequim CBGT.

Harvey
SleepyC :moon

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hi Harvey, happy to be back from time to time. good picture of the C-Voyager. looking at it a person would never know it use to be a 16ft Cruiser.

dave
 
I'd bet that adding two feet to that hull made it a measurably more efficient cruiser. What's your boat's horsepower capacity now, do you suppose? The 60 horse Honda would look right nice back there.
 
oldgrowth":t0za4jzh said:
hi Harvey, happy to be back from time to time. good picture of the C-Voyager. looking at it a person would never know it use to be a 16ft Cruiser.

dave

Thanks Dave and good to know you drop in occasionally. Yes, it looks like it was designed to be that way, and I bet it is a much more comfortable ride and maybe, as Brock is indicating, more efficient now too.

Harvey
SleepyC :moon

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Catman":13brotj2 said:
I'd bet that adding two feet to that hull made it a measurably more efficient cruiser. What's your boat's horsepower capacity now, do you suppose? The 60 horse Honda would look right nice back there.
It made a huge difference. on a scale of 1 to 10 if the extension is 10 the original would be a 2.
The 60hp Honda would work in most cases except in the Columbia Gorge with its high winds. I would feel safer with the 75hp Honda.
 
If anyone in this thread is still looking for a Marinaut, we are selling ours. :( Please see the post we just made in the For Sale section for all the details, and the WWW link in the post footer for pictures.
 
Can someone tell me if a Marinaut 215 has a comfortable ride at 7-9 knots per hour over long distance cruising as that is the crushing speed we prefer. Don't mean to be rude but not looking for comments about other boats. Just want to know if cruising speeds need to be in the higher ranges for comfort and best treatment of the motor for longevity. We did not buy a 23' Ranger Tug due to learning she is best cruised at around 22 mph from a 23 owner who loves their boat. He said that cruising at lower speeds just causes the boat to not perform as well or provide for as comfortable a ride. He prefers the higher speeds so the boat is perfect for him. I never want to cruise at those speeds but am intrigued by the idea of having the capacity to do so in a smaller boat when we would want the extra power for emergencies or to cover some open water crossing or overcome strong currents that would significantly affect us getting to a destination in a timely manner. Hope I am poising this question correctly. Thanks for any insight.
 
7 to 9 knots in a Marinaut is above hull speed, and below plaining speed. You would be at the stage where you are pushing a step of water, with the boat trying to get up onto that step, and it will be the least efficient speed available on that boat. Slow cruise will be about 4.5 knots, Hull speed will come in at about 5.5, and plaining will be just slightly over 9 knots.

Sure you can do it, comfort will depend on water conditions, and how comfortable you are at that gas guzzling speed. As to that R-23 best cruise speed, at 22 it is going to be pushing a lot of water too. That is not a plaining hull, and the fuel burn at 22 is twice to 3 times the fuel burn a 6 knots.

Harvey
SleepyC :moon

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Correction Harvey. As you know, we now own an R23 and it is definitely a planing hull. We usually get on plane at about 17 mph and she does prefer to cruise around 22-27 mph. Obviously the fuel burn is not like the CD22, 2 mpg or less and 10+ gph. Trade-offs right?

Peter :wink:
 
Thanks Peter. I should have waited for you to go first. I understood it was a combination planing/displacement. The ones I have seen making 20 knotts looked like they were working pretty hard.

Harvey
SleepyC :moon

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No worries Harvey. The inboard diesels are definitely not go fast planing hulls. However, the new generation R23, R27 and now the R25 are all outboard planing hulls that WANT to go fast. Our R23 would rather go 30 mph than 20. It takes a lot of control on my part to keep it under 25mph. Other than all the systems on the boat, the biggest adjustment we had to make was getting used to the gas guzzling on the R23 compared to sipping gas on the C-Dorys.
 
Hello- Are you able to get comprehensive insurance on this build? It appears another person who purchased either the first or near first build was having difficulty getting comprehensive insurance due to it the hull identifier showing the boat as a "Washington State homemade boat.", or something to that effect. Am curious about this because we have heard on non insurable boats due to being homemade. The conversation over that was in this forum and I believe the owner seeking advice was Gary. He posted the Hull identification and it began with a WNZ to denote a homemade vessel. Thanks for any input regarding ability to obtain insurance on your new build.

oldgrowth":1macu8h1 said:
I have entered into an agreement with Madison Bay Holding for the production of the Marinaut pilot house boat. The company is owned and operated by Ricardo Ruelos who was Executive Vice President and a shareholder of C-Dory Marine during a successful and productive period from 2000-2005. Ricardo exited the company in 2005 and was hired back in 2007 to assist with a restructure that managed to save the C-Dory brand. Ricardo and I have been working together over the past years to move the Marinaut molds to Florida where he has established an infrastructure and manufacturing base to begin producing the Marinaut 215 (now branded as the 220). He has added additional models of 25 ft, 33 ft and 36 ft Cruisers to his line of boats.

The Marinaut and all boats will be marketed under the Cape Dory Cruisers brand as Ricardo acquired the trademarks for Cape Dory after completing his involvement with C-Dory and the investors at the time, Fluid Marine. The new website is capedorycruisers.com

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