PMs not sending

C-Dawg

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Why do my PMs to C-Brat members not always send right away? Sometimes they do, other times (like today) they don't.

Is there a way to force a message to send?
 
I don't know if this circumstance explains what you are seeing or not, but in this board software (which is used in other fora I frequent too), when you sent a PM (or reply to one), your message first goes into your "Outbox". It stays there until the recipient looks at the message, then and only then does your message move into your "Sent" box.

This system has the advantage of allowing you to edit your message in your "Outbox", even days later, as long as the recipient does not check their mail
 
C-Dawg":8pi8cq1a said:
Why do my PMs to C-Brat members not always send right away? Sometimes they do, other times (like today) they don't.

Is there a way to force a message to send?

I have had a few that stayed in the outbox for days (or longer) -- when I could see the person had been online and would typically have received it already. I did find a way to "force" send it: What I did was go to my outbox, click on the message-that-would-not-send, and then "edit" it. Then re-sent and it got to its recipient in short order.
 
Sunbeam":1v2xosb5 said:
C-Dawg":1v2xosb5 said:
Why do my PMs to C-Brat members not always send right away? Sometimes they do, other times (like today) they don't.

Is there a way to force a message to send?

I have had a few that stayed in the outbox for days (or longer) -- when I could see the person had been online and would typically have received it already. I did find a way to "force" send it: What I did was go to my outbox, click on the message-that-would-not-send, and then "edit" it. Then re-sent and it got to its recipient in short order.

If they have popups blocked, they may not notice that it's in their in box. Or if they don't have email notifications selected.

Charlie
 
Captains Cat":2hgpng32 said:
If they have popups blocked, they may not notice that it's in their in box. Or if they don't have email notifications selected.

Charlie

True but in my it happened with folks I'd already exchanged a number of PM's with (so I knew they usually saw them). And then when I forced the "stubborn messages" to re-send by editing, those too were picked up nearly right away (after languishing for days). May not always be this way -- what you say about pop-up blockers might happen as well -- but I've had the former happen three or four times.
 
Well the system is flawed then. A message should have been sent to tell the recipient that he has a message to read.

I sent 3 messages to the guy who had the boat for sale in Denver. He never responded. My messages showed as never sent.

So I went an bought another boat. I was going to buy his boat unseen but due to no PM sent I did not purchase the Denver boat.
 
rainger":3qh7id3b said:
Well the system is flawed then. A message should have been sent to tell the recipient that he has a message to read.

The notification feature does exist, however one can turn a "radio button" on or off in one's profile to either say "yes, send me a notification" or "no, do not send me a notification."

rainger":3qh7id3b said:
I sent 3 messages to the guy who had the boat for sale in Denver. He never responded. My messages showed as never sent.

So I went an bought another boat. I was going to buy his boat unseen but due to no PM sent I did not purchase the Denver boat.

That's too bad that you missed connecting with the seller. Was this is the 22 that member "John Baker" has for sale in Colorado? If so, he requests to be contacted by text or phone ("best way to reach me is via text or phone at 970- 566-0916"), so I wonder if that had something to do with it.

I find PM's to be reliable 99% of the time, but occasionally there is a glitch.
 
I have had a few that stayed in the outbox for days (or longer) -- when I could see the person had been online and would typically have received it already.
I don't think a message moves from the outbox to the sent box until the recipient actually goes the "messages" link found on the C-Brats home page. They could go online many times, but unless they look in the messages area, your message will languish in the outbox. (I wonder if the move from outbox to sent occurs as soon as one goes to the messages area, or only when one actually displays the message in question?)
 
sgmfish":32tney20 said:
(I wonder if the move from outbox to sent occurs as soon as one goes to the messages area, or only when one actually displays the message in question?)

I don't know, but here is and example of why I suspect some message are "different" than others:

There is a forum member with whom I 'PM" back and forth on a regular basis. I think we have exchanged a few since June 25, but there is one PM sitting in my outbox from June 25. It's one of three that didn't go for some odd reason and just sat there (while other messages were exchanged). The other two I "forced" out by editing them and re-sending them (at which time they were picked up almost immediately), but this one was fairly trivial (I think the info in it had subsequently been covered in another message), so I didn't bother and just left it there.

Now that I'm curious, I will send a new PM to this person and ask if they can see the "stuck" message in their inbox at all. I suspect not, but why not find out for sure. I'll post back when I find out.
 
rainger":2nilq9qr said:
Well the system is flawed then. A message should have been sent to tell the recipient that he has a message to read.

If the "system" you are referring to is the Internet, then yes - it has many flaws. Including the fact that email is never guaranteed to arrive, even though our site did exactly what you wished it had.

An email was sent to the address the seller registered here with every time you sent him a PM. There's a litany of things we can't control once the email has been sent, with SPAM controls being high on the list.

Setting aside the huge number of technical reasons an email might not have made it to him, it's a mistake to assume the emails didn't arrive. Perhaps he checks his email infrequently. Maybe he saw the email and chose to ignore it. Who knows.

All of which is why we state that providing phone numbers in ads makes sense if a seller is serious about selling.
 
Sunbeam":3fn81ypy said:
Now that I'm curious, I will send a new PM to this person and ask if they can see the "stuck" message in their inbox at all.

I mentioned this to Da Nag, and he suspected that these "stuck" messages were simply "buried" in the recipients inbox (as new PM's came in) -- and then apparently they never noticed the "1 new message" in between "view posts..." and "profile" at the top of the screen.

I sent a new PM to the Brat who had a June 25th PM "stuck" in my outbox and asked if he could see it (down a ways) in his inbox. The answer was yes, it was there, and had simply gone unnoticed. So at least that "stuck" PM was never really stuck, and likely that is typically the case when we think they "don't go out." I don't think I could "not see" the "1 new message" icon for weeks, but maybe that's just the curse of detail brain :D
 
Sunbeam":2glqjj02 said:
I don't think I could "not see" the "1 new message" icon for weeks, but maybe that's just the curse of detail brain :D

I think the last piece to the puzzle was just given to me. So, I was on board with the "a person gets a number of PM's, and so one or more just 'slip down' and go unnoticed." But what I couldn't figure out was how someone could go along with "1 new message" displayed at the top of the screen for weeks or months. How would you not notice that?!

Well, today I was discussing this with the person who had "missed" my one message, and he alerted me to something I had never noticed. Namely that if you have, say, four new PM's in your inbox (and so at the top of your main screen it says "4 new messages"), and you go and read three of them, then the message at the top does NOT say "1 new message," but instead says "no new messages." Because you have been to the PM forum, the tally has gone back to zero (even if you only read three of four messages). By the next time you go, the message you don't even know is there is even further down, and so likely you never see it.

The reason my editing and re-sending worked is that that put the message back up at the top (and presumably re-activated the "new message" notation).

Sunbeam
 
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