B10 and Pacific Salmon - 2005
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Anyone out today? I'm planning on dragging the 22 down for a week beginning on the 17th. I'm staying in Ilwaco. I've fished the area several times from a seat in a guide's boat but never on my own craft.
When you say CR, are you referring to a can or buoy? Someone said earler "went by the CR" or something along that line.
How far beyond B-10 is the bar?
Is it worth my time to bring the crab traps? If so, can you suggest an approximate location?
Thank you!
Dan
When you say CR, are you referring to a can or buoy? Someone said earler "went by the CR" or something along that line.
How far beyond B-10 is the bar?
Is it worth my time to bring the crab traps? If so, can you suggest an approximate location?
Thank you!
Dan
Hey Dan, I'll be back down there by then, stop in at M24 and havve a good cup of that Costco coffee.
The "CR" is the official mouth of the river and is about 10 miles SW of bouy 10. For some reason the area right around that CR can is always a rather steady producer of fish.
The "bar" migrates depending on the flow and conditions but it seems like past bouy 6 things get better. You can start getting bumped around starting right around B10. If you hit it on the flood and the ocean is calm, you can usually just set the throttles and enjoy a nice boat ride. Don't take the bar lightly, you have to play on it's terms, but I've often seen folks out there in 16', open, tiller steer boats (albeit stupid folks with a death wish)
Crab pots, bring them, throw them in just under the lighthouse along the north jetty or in Baker Bay. Be sure to have plenty of weight in them or you'll loose them.
Ilwaco channel- use caution, the markers can be decieving and you will run aground if you don't stay in the twisty channel. It is well marked and plenty wide but every year many folks will miss a marker and try to cut a corner and end up walking.
Bring extra money to leave at the bakery in downtown Longbeach
see ya around
The "CR" is the official mouth of the river and is about 10 miles SW of bouy 10. For some reason the area right around that CR can is always a rather steady producer of fish.
The "bar" migrates depending on the flow and conditions but it seems like past bouy 6 things get better. You can start getting bumped around starting right around B10. If you hit it on the flood and the ocean is calm, you can usually just set the throttles and enjoy a nice boat ride. Don't take the bar lightly, you have to play on it's terms, but I've often seen folks out there in 16', open, tiller steer boats (albeit stupid folks with a death wish)
Crab pots, bring them, throw them in just under the lighthouse along the north jetty or in Baker Bay. Be sure to have plenty of weight in them or you'll loose them.
Ilwaco channel- use caution, the markers can be decieving and you will run aground if you don't stay in the twisty channel. It is well marked and plenty wide but every year many folks will miss a marker and try to cut a corner and end up walking.
Bring extra money to leave at the bakery in downtown Longbeach
see ya around
Thanks Ken for the reply.
I am not accustomed to weighting my crab pots - fish primarily Puget Sound. How much weight do you suggest?
I've also never navigated the Ilwaco Channel so do appreciate your input. I'll be sure to watch the chart as we go - my Garmin unit is up to date.
I'll need to read up more on the bar. I have nothing but respect and have no intention of taking unnecessary risk. I'm starting to get worried about the run not showing up - like the springers. Thinking that a backup plan, like running out might be wise.
Thanks again,
Dan
I am not accustomed to weighting my crab pots - fish primarily Puget Sound. How much weight do you suggest?
I've also never navigated the Ilwaco Channel so do appreciate your input. I'll be sure to watch the chart as we go - my Garmin unit is up to date.
I'll need to read up more on the bar. I have nothing but respect and have no intention of taking unnecessary risk. I'm starting to get worried about the run not showing up - like the springers. Thinking that a backup plan, like running out might be wise.
Thanks again,
Dan
Roger -
If you can wait until the end of August or the first week in September, I have vacation planned for fishing. The tides are good for going out to the ocean, and by then it will be crazy with fish real close in. Even if the weather isn't good for outside, there should be lots of fish in the river. The only thing besides fishing that I know is going on that week is one day at the state fair. It seems little Miss Tiffany made a poster about horses and won a championship ribbon at the county fair. So now we gotta do the state fair, too.
Like B~C, I would be proud to have you aboard. The next three weekends are lousy for going over the bar, and the fish haven't ventured into the river in any numbers yet, so the last half of the month is your best bet. But if all you're after is a boat ride and pretend fishing like we did your last trip down, we can do that anytime. Who knows, might even catch a dumb salmon.
If you can wait until the end of August or the first week in September, I have vacation planned for fishing. The tides are good for going out to the ocean, and by then it will be crazy with fish real close in. Even if the weather isn't good for outside, there should be lots of fish in the river. The only thing besides fishing that I know is going on that week is one day at the state fair. It seems little Miss Tiffany made a poster about horses and won a championship ribbon at the county fair. So now we gotta do the state fair, too.
Like B~C, I would be proud to have you aboard. The next three weekends are lousy for going over the bar, and the fish haven't ventured into the river in any numbers yet, so the last half of the month is your best bet. But if all you're after is a boat ride and pretend fishing like we did your last trip down, we can do that anytime. Who knows, might even catch a dumb salmon.
Lynn Marie
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Hi Roger,
I don't know what your schedual is but if it's in the near future you can come down and go with me and try to catch a dumb sturgeon in the river. That's all I've been fishing for since I can't seem to catch any of the smart ones and the river is still open till the 15th, besides a guy can fish for salmon inside now too even though it's not real active yet like Mike says. Like the old saying goes "A bad day of fishing...." and if nows your only chance let me know. I'm spoken for this Sunday but the rest of the days are free and I can grab a vacation day durring the week.
Tim
I don't know what your schedual is but if it's in the near future you can come down and go with me and try to catch a dumb sturgeon in the river. That's all I've been fishing for since I can't seem to catch any of the smart ones and the river is still open till the 15th, besides a guy can fish for salmon inside now too even though it's not real active yet like Mike says. Like the old saying goes "A bad day of fishing...." and if nows your only chance let me know. I'm spoken for this Sunday but the rest of the days are free and I can grab a vacation day durring the week.
Tim
Hey thanks all
I am gonna check out my schedule and will definatly get back with yall soon.
I have a few commitments coming up(Langley,pulling out Fishtales and Sea3PO, and our local fair and our GreenCorn gathering that Lisbeth & I are hosts of)....lol....not to mention the tater spraying and mowing soon.
I would realy like to actualy catch some sort of swimming
thing...lol....I can get a boat ride any ole time
Hmmmm, all of a sudden my freetime looks less and less all the time, funny how that works,eh
I am gonna check out my schedule and will definatly get back with yall soon.
I have a few commitments coming up(Langley,pulling out Fishtales and Sea3PO, and our local fair and our GreenCorn gathering that Lisbeth & I are hosts of)....lol....not to mention the tater spraying and mowing soon.
I would realy like to actualy catch some sort of swimming
thing...lol....I can get a boat ride any ole time
Hmmmm, all of a sudden my freetime looks less and less all the time, funny how that works,eh
Mike,
I've never been over the bar but am considering it on days from the 18th thru the 22nd. You mention that the next three weekends are lousy.
I know very little about this so am not arguing, just trying to learn. The weekend of 20/21 August shows the low tide at 7:18 AM and 8:04 AM. Wouldn't this be the perfect weekend to cross the bar? Assuming I go out at about 7:00 and 8:00 and return before the ebb tide change at 1:46 PM and 2:28 PM.
Any information is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Dan
I've never been over the bar but am considering it on days from the 18th thru the 22nd. You mention that the next three weekends are lousy.
I know very little about this so am not arguing, just trying to learn. The weekend of 20/21 August shows the low tide at 7:18 AM and 8:04 AM. Wouldn't this be the perfect weekend to cross the bar? Assuming I go out at about 7:00 and 8:00 and return before the ebb tide change at 1:46 PM and 2:28 PM.
Any information is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Dan
thems good times, you're on the right track, be wary of the wind in the afternoon. There's usually a constant chatter about bar conditions on the radio, the charter boats are usually on 11 other fishing folks on 68 plus there will be a mass exodus in the morning as everybody heads out.
remember to pinch those barbs if you head out
remember to pinch those barbs if you head out
yup, barbless out in the ocean, barbs in the river, and there's F&G boats that will be out checking. Stop by the slip when you get down there for a free orientation session, it only takes two minutes to tell you all I know about fishing down there. 
Man I'm jazzed to get back down there, I brought the boat home and have it all cleaned up and ready to trash again. I gots some stuff to do next week and after that I hope to spending some serious time down there for the rest of the summer....the fishing is good but that's only part of the fun, the boating, the hubbub of activity..it's a hoot, it almost reminds me of living in Pendleton during the Roundup with all the folks about.
Man I'm jazzed to get back down there, I brought the boat home and have it all cleaned up and ready to trash again. I gots some stuff to do next week and after that I hope to spending some serious time down there for the rest of the summer....the fishing is good but that's only part of the fun, the boating, the hubbub of activity..it's a hoot, it almost reminds me of living in Pendleton during the Roundup with all the folks about.
Dan -
The times are great the weekend of 20/21, but the tidal exchange is huge by the river's standards. You just need to wait a little longer into the flood to go out. It seems the big tide swings cause more violence with the river/ocean clash and it takes longer for things to settle down. If the wind and forecast are good, I will probably poke my nose out there that weekend.
The following weekend is more to my taste, even though the times are not ideal. I don't mind waiting outside for things to settle, as long as it doesn't get too late into the early afternoon wind. With the wind chop from one direction and the swells from another, it can be an unpleasant ride if you wait too long. But the exchange in the morning ebb is just a few feet, so it will settle down quicker and even be passable before or after max ebb if needed.
Of course, I am saying all this from work without my tide book in my pocket, so I might be haywire. B~C and his buddy Cheers will jump all over me if I am.
Give the TyBoo a shout on 16 whenever you are out and about on a weekend. If I hear you, I will answer back. But if the fishing is good, don't be calling B~C on his cell phone. I don't think he can afford to pitch too many more of those overboard.
The times are great the weekend of 20/21, but the tidal exchange is huge by the river's standards. You just need to wait a little longer into the flood to go out. It seems the big tide swings cause more violence with the river/ocean clash and it takes longer for things to settle down. If the wind and forecast are good, I will probably poke my nose out there that weekend.
The following weekend is more to my taste, even though the times are not ideal. I don't mind waiting outside for things to settle, as long as it doesn't get too late into the early afternoon wind. With the wind chop from one direction and the swells from another, it can be an unpleasant ride if you wait too long. But the exchange in the morning ebb is just a few feet, so it will settle down quicker and even be passable before or after max ebb if needed.
Of course, I am saying all this from work without my tide book in my pocket, so I might be haywire. B~C and his buddy Cheers will jump all over me if I am.
Give the TyBoo a shout on 16 whenever you are out and about on a weekend. If I hear you, I will answer back. But if the fishing is good, don't be calling B~C on his cell phone. I don't think he can afford to pitch too many more of those overboard.
stupid cell phones, last week I left it in the truck and then when we got to truckin down the road I had left it in the boat.
Here's todays lower river action http://www.katu.com/stories/78816.html
Here's todays lower river action http://www.katu.com/stories/78816.html
Whoa! No wonder that Clatsop Spit scares me so much. I like to stay well inside the red line from 22 on down. Wasn't that last year that the two older gentlemen drifted onto the spit and into the breakers while trying to get a crab pot line off their prop? One of them didn't make it that time. At least all the folks got clear of this one.
There you go, B~C. Big charter boat for sale cheap! Get the rest of them tests done.
There you go, B~C. Big charter boat for sale cheap! Get the rest of them tests done.
yup, every year that catches somebody, when we came in last weekend the motor lifeboats where tearing out of the station to grab somebody off there. As we went by the lifeboat station I couldn't help but notice that those things leave a substancial wake when they're scurrying....I don't think it would be fun to run a charter boat around the mouth, I like the option of not running out if it just doesn't feel right. I don't think paying customers would understand it if it was announced "ah screw it, we're going to the bakery"
Damn I hope the ocean is rough as a cobb next week so I won't feel so bad about being elsewhere
Damn I hope the ocean is rough as a cobb next week so I won't feel so bad about being elsewhere
Thanks a lot, T~C. But even if it is, I got half a mind to snag one up in the river.
Hi, you mentioned weighting crab pots when crabbing on the Columbia. How much weight do you suggest and how do you configure it? I'm imagining hanging a lead ball inside each corner of the bottom of the trap...?
Any luck the last few days in the lower Columbia or ocean?
Thanks,
Dan
Any luck the last few days in the lower Columbia or ocean?
Thanks,
Dan
I just throw a nice rock or two in the pot for insurance. If you just let them soak through the flood, no worry, if there's much of a ebb them babies can wander about quite a bit.
FYI- We always throw them in about 30' of water. Installing the pointy end of the float pointed to the pot helps to reduce current drag.
FYI- We always throw them in about 30' of water. Installing the pointy end of the float pointed to the pot helps to reduce current drag.
Went just outside Warrenton and dorked around in the river for a couple hours. Caught nothin', saw nothin'. The fish checker at the dock said there was a pretty good chinook bite yesterday evening. He saw a couple brights and some tules come in. I wonder why they keep them tules? The ones around here are mighty ugly.
When I got back up to the truck, I noticed the guy who parked nose in to me was a little close to my front bumper. A plastic lump on his bumper was resting hard on my license plate. No big deal - it's hard to hurt them Dodges. But when I backed out, he hit me again! Seems he left it out of gear and it was rolling ahead. I found a chunk of wood to block the wheel, and called the phone number on the ad in his window (yep - one of them guide guys).
When I got back up to the truck, I noticed the guy who parked nose in to me was a little close to my front bumper. A plastic lump on his bumper was resting hard on my license plate. No big deal - it's hard to hurt them Dodges. But when I backed out, he hit me again! Seems he left it out of gear and it was rolling ahead. I found a chunk of wood to block the wheel, and called the phone number on the ad in his window (yep - one of them guide guys).
B~C - you going fishing this weekend? That Surfsand gizmo says mini-tsunamis on Saturday, but a lake on Sunday. I think Sat. will be an early B10 trip to hit the flood and then a nap or something. Got a crew for both days, and hope that the Sunday forescast holds true.
Or do you only fish warm water species now?
Or do you only fish warm water species now?