Verticle Sliding Window in Cabin Door
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I will try to respond to some of your questions:
To CCFlyer: I am not a boat mechanic by any stretch of the imagination. I believe that removal of the window would be to unscrew the inside trim ring, remove, scrape off any caulking, and put in new window reversing the order. To the best of my knowledge, there are no photos of this retrofit. You/we would be blazing new trails. I am willing to go where no man has gone before.
To Moose: When we get six commitments, I will call DSG and verify that the window will fit a 2001 or which model years it will fit. This will make sure that everyone will know beforehand - I do not want anyone to spend money if it won't work. (P.S. How about taking some pictures of your hammock install - I always wanted to see that)
To Foggy Dew: When I spoke to DSG today, Kim Parley told me that the cost to ship 6 windows in one order WOULD NOT be 6 times $70. He did not have the exact number, but shipping would be much less. When I ship UPS, I will not crate the windows in wood unless you want me to. I will wrap them so they wont break and insure them. Can not invision the cost to be too atronomical. The window only measures 17" x25". I only used a total shipping cost of $100 as a high number. I think it will be much less. But there is no guarantee at this point. I WILL get a quote before any of us commits. I just want to see in the next few days if there are six brave Brats out there. So far its Me and the Moose. (Like Rocky and Bulwinkle)
For Pete on Adeline: You are correct in that the window frame is a powder coat finish in a C-Dory specified off white. If its aluminum you want, I can ask if we can make it happen.
I am happy to entertain any and all questions. I will do my best to get answers. So if you are interested in this project, ask away asap and I will compile a list of questions and call DSG to get answers.
My best to all
John
Swee Pea
To CCFlyer: I am not a boat mechanic by any stretch of the imagination. I believe that removal of the window would be to unscrew the inside trim ring, remove, scrape off any caulking, and put in new window reversing the order. To the best of my knowledge, there are no photos of this retrofit. You/we would be blazing new trails. I am willing to go where no man has gone before.
To Moose: When we get six commitments, I will call DSG and verify that the window will fit a 2001 or which model years it will fit. This will make sure that everyone will know beforehand - I do not want anyone to spend money if it won't work. (P.S. How about taking some pictures of your hammock install - I always wanted to see that)
To Foggy Dew: When I spoke to DSG today, Kim Parley told me that the cost to ship 6 windows in one order WOULD NOT be 6 times $70. He did not have the exact number, but shipping would be much less. When I ship UPS, I will not crate the windows in wood unless you want me to. I will wrap them so they wont break and insure them. Can not invision the cost to be too atronomical. The window only measures 17" x25". I only used a total shipping cost of $100 as a high number. I think it will be much less. But there is no guarantee at this point. I WILL get a quote before any of us commits. I just want to see in the next few days if there are six brave Brats out there. So far its Me and the Moose. (Like Rocky and Bulwinkle)
For Pete on Adeline: You are correct in that the window frame is a powder coat finish in a C-Dory specified off white. If its aluminum you want, I can ask if we can make it happen.
I am happy to entertain any and all questions. I will do my best to get answers. So if you are interested in this project, ask away asap and I will compile a list of questions and call DSG to get answers.
My best to all
John
Swee Pea
Well Boris and Natasha from the Foggy Dew have reached a decision and we will join Rocky and Bullwinkle as new sliding window openers......so that makes 3. Now if we can get Dudley Dooright, Snidely Whiplash and Sherman onboard we will have the whole show,(not to mention beautiful sliders) :film :film :film :smiled :teeth :thup
Thanks Rocky
Thanks Rocky
DIAMOND SEA-GLAZE MANUFACTURING LTD.
26995 GLOUCESTER WAY
LANGLEY, B.C.
CANADA V4W 3Y3
PHONE: (604) 607-0091 OR 1-800-770-0455
FAX: (604) 607-0092
e-mail: info@diamondseaglaze.com
We would have to work out the details for you to be part of the 6 so you would get the discount from them, or better yet, you pick up the six windows and distribute to the rest of us. See what you got yourself into?
John
Swee Pea
26995 GLOUCESTER WAY
LANGLEY, B.C.
CANADA V4W 3Y3
PHONE: (604) 607-0091 OR 1-800-770-0455
FAX: (604) 607-0092
e-mail: info@diamondseaglaze.com
We would have to work out the details for you to be part of the 6 so you would get the discount from them, or better yet, you pick up the six windows and distribute to the rest of us. See what you got yourself into?
John
Swee Pea
Swee Pea":2ofea5el said:
See, now we're getting somewhere!!! That would eliminate the Diamond Sea Glaze shipping / brokerage / duty costs. And as a private individual, it is my impression that, because of NAFTA, goods made in Canada may be imported duty free. That, of course, is worth a phonecall to Customs ahead of time, but it could end up saving everyone a bundle, if you were willing to do it.
And John, the Spotsylvania thing finally connected with me. And you know what else, we hail from Frostbite Falls, MN - literally!!! LOL
Al
Thats four, four, four, do I hear five, five, five :lol: ...... C'mon folks, a nice new vertical sliding window for your cabin door ... cool breezes with the security of a lockable door; great ventilation, custom factory look, quality construction ....... you only live once... do I hear five :thup ?
John
Swee Pea
John
Swee Pea
Just got off the phone with DSG in an attempt to get a few answers.
If you want to check to see if the window will be an exact fit for your cabin door, measure the outside dimensions of your window. If it measures 18 3/8" x 25 3/8", then it should be a perfect fit. If your dimensions are smaller, then you might have to break out Mr. Saw and enlarge the opening in the door to 17" x 25". (Are you up to the challenge?)
If your window is larger than 18 3/8" x 25 3/8", then you might have to remove the window and measure the opening ... do you feel lucky? In this case, bigger ain't better.
If it is a direct replacement, then installation would be as previously described: remove trim from inside, carefully remove window - removing sealant. Reseal, reinstall, replace trim, sit back and enjoy your new window and screen, and thank your lucky stars you are aboard a C-Dory.
In addition, if you have an older C-Dory with aluminum trim (not powder coated) and you want plain aluminum, it can be done and no extra charge. In fact, DSG said your window would be a little less expensive because they do not have to prep and powder coat your trim. Ain't that sweet! Isthmus be your lucky day.
I am having way too much fun :wink ... but we need two more of you to make this a go.
John
Swee Pea
If you want to check to see if the window will be an exact fit for your cabin door, measure the outside dimensions of your window. If it measures 18 3/8" x 25 3/8", then it should be a perfect fit. If your dimensions are smaller, then you might have to break out Mr. Saw and enlarge the opening in the door to 17" x 25". (Are you up to the challenge?)
If your window is larger than 18 3/8" x 25 3/8", then you might have to remove the window and measure the opening ... do you feel lucky? In this case, bigger ain't better.
If it is a direct replacement, then installation would be as previously described: remove trim from inside, carefully remove window - removing sealant. Reseal, reinstall, replace trim, sit back and enjoy your new window and screen, and thank your lucky stars you are aboard a C-Dory.
In addition, if you have an older C-Dory with aluminum trim (not powder coated) and you want plain aluminum, it can be done and no extra charge. In fact, DSG said your window would be a little less expensive because they do not have to prep and powder coat your trim. Ain't that sweet! Isthmus be your lucky day.
I am having way too much fun :wink ... but we need two more of you to make this a go.
John
Swee Pea
One small step for man, one giant leap for ......
O.K. Troops. The time has come. Who will be the ONE to put us over the top? :lips Who is that one brave soul ... who will be forever remembered in the minds and hearts :love of C-Dorydom? (Don't push or shove, there is plenty of room for everyone!)
I definetly need a break (or life, whichever comes first!)
My wife says I have way too much time on my hands.
John
Swee Pea
O.K. Troops. The time has come. Who will be the ONE to put us over the top? :lips Who is that one brave soul ... who will be forever remembered in the minds and hearts :love of C-Dorydom? (Don't push or shove, there is plenty of room for everyone!)
I definetly need a break (or life, whichever comes first!)
My wife says I have way too much time on my hands.
John
Swee Pea
:thup :thup :thup :thup :thup :thup :thup :thup :thup :thup :thup
Thanks to all for your support. We now have 6. I have already contacted DSG and they are now in the process of estimating shipping costs to me in Virginia. I do not wish to use this forum for commercial purposes, ... but to save time, I am willing to post here my address and payment info if the site administrator doesn't mind.
If not, we can do it via PM, but that may take more time. Anyway ya'all (that's Virginia talk) decide and let me know.
And as Fishtales said, if more than the original 6 want to join in, the more the merrier. I will be happy to ship to anyone who wants to join. But we will set a cut off date :clock so we can get the initial order in.
Talk to you soon, my 22' Brothers and Sisters
John
Swee Pea
Thanks to all for your support. We now have 6. I have already contacted DSG and they are now in the process of estimating shipping costs to me in Virginia. I do not wish to use this forum for commercial purposes, ... but to save time, I am willing to post here my address and payment info if the site administrator doesn't mind.
If not, we can do it via PM, but that may take more time. Anyway ya'all (that's Virginia talk) decide and let me know.
And as Fishtales said, if more than the original 6 want to join in, the more the merrier. I will be happy to ship to anyone who wants to join. But we will set a cut off date :clock so we can get the initial order in.
Talk to you soon, my 22' Brothers and Sisters
John
Swee Pea
Swee Pea":l60oshk7 said:
Something doesn't quite add up here.
I just took my window apart, it literally only took a minute with a cordless drill, and here's what I found:
My outside dimensions are 18 3/8" x 26 1/2", not 25 3/8"
My inside dimensions are essentially 17" x 25", and the rough opening 1/4" larger both ways.
The difference between the rough opening (25") and outside dimension height (25 3/8") you quote is only 3/8", which would be only 3/16" per side; not much of an overlap. As I say, something doesn't add up.
As an aside, I stripped the heads off of three of the S2 - square head screws reassembling the window. No biggy, but they seem a little delicate.
Al
Right again. 
The outside dimensions should be 18 3/8" x 26 3/8", not 25 3/8". I wrote the verticle dimension on my hand and sweated off an inch. I am glad to see that the inside dimensions are correct and the removal of the window is an easy process. I have a bunch of those ss square head screws. Let me know how many you need and when I send the window (or sooner if you want) I will send you a what you need.
John
Swee Pea
The outside dimensions should be 18 3/8" x 26 3/8", not 25 3/8". I wrote the verticle dimension on my hand and sweated off an inch. I am glad to see that the inside dimensions are correct and the removal of the window is an easy process. I have a bunch of those ss square head screws. Let me know how many you need and when I send the window (or sooner if you want) I will send you a what you need.John
Swee Pea
Captains Cat
New member
Hey John, you almost got me talked into it too. By "outside dimensions", do you mean of the frame? My 22 is a 1994, has a "wood" door and a white plastic frame around the window that measures 18 1/2 X 26 1/2 from edge to edge on the frame, both outside and inside. The glass showing INSIDE the frame is 16 X 24 but it's obviously got to go under the frame. The gasket is on the outside. Let me know if you think you've got the same thing.
You wouldn't even have to ship mine, I know exactly where your boat is, went by it a few weeks ago heading out to Kinsale Marina by car.
Charlie
You wouldn't even have to ship mine, I know exactly where your boat is, went by it a few weeks ago heading out to Kinsale Marina by car.
Charlie
Measurement for the window was taken on the outside of the door, the outside of the window frame.
The specifications for the window are as follows:
For a 17x25 Type D15 2 1/2" Radius Corner 1/4" tempered glass, 3/4" Trim 1-Verticle Slider c/w Screen, Diamond Sea-Glaze says it is the same window size for a 22' C-Dory cabin door. It will be powder coat finish in the C-Dory off white color as the original. Production time is 6-7 weeks, unit price is based on an order of 6 windows or more. I am required to send a 50% deposit to start the job. Total cost for 6 windows including crating and duty and brokerage is $1653.22. I just received the shipping quote from Canada to me in Virginia and THE TOTAL COST OF SHIPPING IS $99.14 (roughly $17.00 PER WINDOW) FOR A GRAND TOTAL OF $1752.36 DIVIDED BY 6 = $292.06 FOR:
Swee Pea
Valkyrie
Moose
Foggy Dew
CC Flyer
Fishtales
If any of the above mentioned Brats has changed their mind, please notify immediately. I am going to call DSG tomorrow and give them a 50% deposit to get the ball rolling.
The only other charge will be for me to ship to you via UPS. Please realize that depending on weight and size, shipping from me to you will be way more than $17.00 because I am shipping them one at a time to one address. I calculated an estimated window size and weight from Virginia to the C-Dory factory address and it came out to be about $40. But don't hold me to this. It could be high, but I don't think it is low.
The above 5 should make a check in the amount of $292.06 and mail it to:
John Picariello
13416 Fox Chase Lane
Spotsylvania, VA 22553
540-972-4624
I have done my best to get all the facts straight and am confident with the communication between the CD Factory, DSG and myself, it is the correct window. I hope no one will be disappointed.
John
Swee Pea
The specifications for the window are as follows:
For a 17x25 Type D15 2 1/2" Radius Corner 1/4" tempered glass, 3/4" Trim 1-Verticle Slider c/w Screen, Diamond Sea-Glaze says it is the same window size for a 22' C-Dory cabin door. It will be powder coat finish in the C-Dory off white color as the original. Production time is 6-7 weeks, unit price is based on an order of 6 windows or more. I am required to send a 50% deposit to start the job. Total cost for 6 windows including crating and duty and brokerage is $1653.22. I just received the shipping quote from Canada to me in Virginia and THE TOTAL COST OF SHIPPING IS $99.14 (roughly $17.00 PER WINDOW) FOR A GRAND TOTAL OF $1752.36 DIVIDED BY 6 = $292.06 FOR:
Swee Pea
Valkyrie
Moose
Foggy Dew
CC Flyer
Fishtales
If any of the above mentioned Brats has changed their mind, please notify immediately. I am going to call DSG tomorrow and give them a 50% deposit to get the ball rolling.
The only other charge will be for me to ship to you via UPS. Please realize that depending on weight and size, shipping from me to you will be way more than $17.00 because I am shipping them one at a time to one address. I calculated an estimated window size and weight from Virginia to the C-Dory factory address and it came out to be about $40. But don't hold me to this. It could be high, but I don't think it is low.
The above 5 should make a check in the amount of $292.06 and mail it to:
John Picariello
13416 Fox Chase Lane
Spotsylvania, VA 22553
540-972-4624
I have done my best to get all the facts straight and am confident with the communication between the CD Factory, DSG and myself, it is the correct window. I hope no one will be disappointed.
John
Swee Pea
Thanks again
The amount you quoted to send to you now does not include the shipping amount from you to us, so do you just want us to send you the first amount and the shipping later?? I would be happy to add on 40 or 50 bucks so that you will at least have most of the shipping. Anyway let us know and I will get a certified check off to you right away.
Rick and Donna
The amount you quoted to send to you now does not include the shipping amount from you to us, so do you just want us to send you the first amount and the shipping later?? I would be happy to add on 40 or 50 bucks so that you will at least have most of the shipping. Anyway let us know and I will get a certified check off to you right away.
Rick and Donna
Yes. Just send $292.06. When I get the windows, pack them, and bring them down to UPS, I will get actual shipping costs for each of you. It will vary depending on destination. I will call you and notify you of shipping costs and you can send me the final check for that. I can trust you all 
. I think it is easier that way. If you send me $40 now and it turns out to be less, then I will have to send money back. It would be easier just to send me a second check when I know the exact amount.
Also, please send with your check the exact shipping address, including zip code and phone number. At that point, I will call you instead of communicating via this thread. I hate to make all the other Brats jealous of our sliding windows :wink:
(notice this guy is green with envy) :wink:
I will be calling DSG today and placing the order for 6, C-dory white powder coat trim. I will ask them when the cut off date would be to add a few more if anyone else is interested.
John
Swee Pea
. I think it is easier that way. If you send me $40 now and it turns out to be less, then I will have to send money back. It would be easier just to send me a second check when I know the exact amount.Also, please send with your check the exact shipping address, including zip code and phone number. At that point, I will call you instead of communicating via this thread. I hate to make all the other Brats jealous of our sliding windows :wink:
(notice this guy is green with envy) :wink: I will be calling DSG today and placing the order for 6, C-dory white powder coat trim. I will ask them when the cut off date would be to add a few more if anyone else is interested.
John
Swee Pea